Not enough bandwidth??

[Pikatchu]

This is primarily an issue with slow software's opening time.

 

I am currently using a 7900x with B650E-F motherboard, RTX 3080, and 3 m.2 SSDs.

 

When I have the graphic card installed, my software have significant delays when opening them, like up to 15 seconds.

When I remove my graphic card, the software will open instantly with no noticeable opening time.

 

Is this a CPU PCIE limitation? Or motherboard's limitation?

Per the motherboard's spec, it did not say anything about m.2 slot sharing lanes with x16 slot, for the ones connected to CPU directly.

 

I have 2 gen4 SSDs and 1 gen3. Slot 1 have gen4, slot 2 have gen3, and last slot gen4.

I have tried rotating the drives around the slots; same outcome. No matter how I arrange them, software will launcher very slowly with my graphic card installed.

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, Pikatchu said:

This is primarily an issue with slow software's opening time.

 

I am currently using a 7900x with B650E-F motherboard, RTX 3080, and 3 m.2 SSDs.

 

When I have the graphic card installed, my software have significant delays when opening them, like up to 15 seconds.

When I remove my graphic card, the software will open instantly with no noticeable opening time.

 

Is this a CPU PCIE limitation? Or motherboard's limitation?

Per the motherboard's spec, it did not say anything about m.2 slot sharing lanes with x16 slot, for the ones connected to CPU directly.

 

I have 2 gen4 SSDs and 1 gen3. Slot 1 have gen4, slot 2 have gen3, and last slot gen4.

I have tried rotating the drives around the slots; same outcome. No matter how I arrange them, software will launcher very slowly with my graphic card installed.

check at what bandwidth your pcie slot is currently at in the bios

[Pikatchu]

7 minutes ago, filpo said:

check at what bandwidth your pcie slot is currently at in the bios

They are on the appropriate gen speed. Gen4 for all except for the gen3 ssd, which is at gen3.

 

Not sure how to check bandwidth, what do you mean by bandwidth?

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, Pikatchu said:

They are on the appropriate gen speed. Gen4 for all except for the gen3 ssd, which is at gen3.

 

Not sure how to check bandwidth, what do you mean by bandwidth?

i mean the slot for the graphics card and to check it you need to go into the BIOS, go under general settings, then pcie subsystem settings then pcie link speed and see what speed your gpu is bound to 

[Electronics Wizardy]

What software is this? Does it affect other software? 

This seems like a weird issue with the software and not due to system bandwidth.

[Pikatchu]

5 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

What software is this? Does it affect other software? 

This seems like a weird issue with the software and not due to system bandwidth.

It is steam.

Though, it is weird that removing the gpu will solved the slow software startup. This got me thinking about bandwidth or PCIE lane allocation issue.

 

21 minutes ago, filpo said:

i mean the slot for the graphics card and to check it you need to go into the BIOS, go under general settings, then pcie subsystem settings then pcie link speed and see what speed your gpu is bound to 

All bandwidth is normal, at the correct speeds.

[Electronics Wizardy]

2 minutes ago, Pikatchu said:

It is steam.

Though, it is weird that removing the gpu will solved the slow software startup. This got me thinking about bandwidth or PCIE lane allocation issue.

 

All bandwidth is normal, at the correct speeds.

Is task manager showing anything weird?

 

Id guess its waiting on a driver or something, and has nothing to do with disk io.

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Is task manager showing anything weird?

 

Id guess its waiting on a driver or something, and has nothing to do with disk io.

Ye i second this. Check your chipset and bios is up to date as well as network adapter drivers 

[Ebony Falcon]

Shouldn’t be as 3000 series and 4000 series don’t use pcie 5 so it will run at 4 which means u still have half the bandwidth available to it anyway 

[Pikatchu]

7 minutes ago, filpo said:

Ye i second this. Check your chipset and bios is up to date as well as network adapter drivers 

BIOS version 1222

Shipset V5.01.03.005

13 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Is task manager showing anything weird?

 

Id guess its waiting on a driver or something, and has nothing to do with disk io.

All seems fine, there is a steam(32bit) background task running when I click open. After awhile, Steam's bundle of tasks will show up in app.

If steam is already started, it will run a 2nd steam(32bit) task in background task, after awhile then bundles the client service and client webhelper to app.

[Pikatchu]

@Ebony Falcon@filpo@Electronics Wizardy

 

Thank you all for your inputs, this seems to be a BIOS issue with Asus boards.

Asus board's BIOS seems to not be in a stable state yet, plenty of complaints.