9600k upgrade path recommendations?

[Ameridas]

Budget (including currency): up to 600 would be best

Country: lithuania

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: AAA, lol, etc...

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

rtx 3070, h310 pro vd msi mobo, i5-9600k, 750w psu, coolermaster master lite 120 AIO, 1440p ultrawide, 1080p 2nd monitor

Greetings, what would be the best upgrade path for my cpu? Would be nice that I could keep using my AIO. Currently I'm bottlenecked by cpu, so I'm looking to upgrade it and remove the botleneck to the GPU. Is it possible without changing the mobo out? Thanks.

 

[Hinjima]

10 minutes ago, Ameridas said:

Budget (including currency): up to 600 would be best

Country: lithuania

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: AAA, lol, etc...

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

rtx 3070, h310 pro vd msi mobo, i5-9600k, 750w psu, coolermaster master lite 120 AIO, 1440p ultrawide, 1080p 2nd monitor

Greetings, what would be the best upgrade path for my cpu? Would be nice that I could keep using my AIO. Currently I'm bottlenecked by cpu, so I'm looking to upgrade it and remove the botleneck to the GPU. Is it possible without changing the mobo out? Thanks.

 

The best CPU you can put in your motherboard is a 9900k.  Your 9600k is 6 cores / 6 threads. 9900k is 8 cores / 16 threads,  The 9900k will give a nice boost especially in CPU demanding games, it is however still a 5 year old CPU so you might not see the largest of gains in some titles. A 120mm AIO might be a little low for a 9900k, might be useable if you undervolt it.

[Fasauceome]

26 minutes ago, Ameridas said:

h310 pro vd

Unfortunately this is not a very good motherboard, because it lacks a decent power delivery setup. If you upgrade to an i9-9900, you might have reduced clock speeds.

 

As @Hinjimamentioned, the AIO cooler is kind of small. However, I think undervolting can solve both of your problems. If you manage to get -.3 volts to the CPU (which would be a really significant reduction,) you would have a much lower power draw and lower temps.

 

if you are willing to experiment with undervolting to see what you can get away with, a 9900 or 9900K would be worthwhile. Maybe even a 9900T but those are not common CPUs so I don't think you'll find one.

[Penpilot]

27 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

A 120mm AIO might be a little low for a 9900k, might be useable if you undervolt it.

ahem, it will not be enough

 

8 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

However, I think undervolting can solve both of your problems. If you manage to get -.3 volts to the CPU

even intel's old HEDT chips which were great over clockers and under volters could not usually do that, how the flip do you plan to pull that off on a regular intel chip?

 

i think that the best CPU would be the i79700k which are cheaper than the i9 and still have 8 cores but "only" 8 threads i think that this will be a great upgrade for you but if you can find a i9 9900k or 9900 then you should get that instead but don't be surprised to see the i9 at 100 degree all the time. spend the the rest of the budget on upgrading your cooler and your thermals along with your performance will be way better.

[Fasauceome]

5 minutes ago, shreshta said:

even intel's old HEDT chips which were great over clockers and under volters could not usually do that, how the flip do you plan to pull that off on a regular intel chip?

Perhaps I've been too blessed with gold samples all my own. But on the other hand, a 9900K is the second best coffee lake bin out there, so a decent undervolt along the lines of -.15 to .2 could be more realistic and make power draw more manageable 

[Hinjima]

9 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Perhaps I've been too blessed with gold samples all my own. But on the other hand, a 9900K is the second best coffee lake bin out there, so a decent undervolt along the lines of -.15 to .2 could be more realistic and make power draw more manageable 

I managed to go from 1.37 to 1.225v on my 9900k at stock clocks, dropped on avg 20c in gaming temperature!  I might have been lucky but as you say, its a decently binned chip.

[Ameridas]

So the best suggestion would be to get a new mobo+cpu combo? And what would you recomend?

[Bismut]

10 minutes ago, Ameridas said:

So the best suggestion would be to get a new mobo+cpu combo?

Where'd you get that from?
 

 

11 minutes ago, Ameridas said:

And what would you recomend?

The Ryzen 7 5800X3D still goes strong, but it might be worth it to go for AM5 if your budget can stretch that far. Are you actually in need of more performance or can you wait/save up a while longer?

[Fasauceome]

1 hour ago, Ameridas said:

So the best suggestion would be to get a new mobo+cpu combo? And what would you recomend?

Make sure to quote us so we can see your responses.

 

If you're getting a new motherboard and CPU, you have a lot of options. Current gen Intel 13th gen is the performance leader generally with a cheap B760 board you'd be in good shape (make sure to get one with a decent vrm heat sink). Their 12th gen are fairly cheap too so you can save money with something like a 12400F and B660 motherboard. With AMD, if you really want to save some cash, a used B450 motherboard with a BIOS flash button will accommodate a 5000 series Ryzen CPU. Otherwise, compare the 7000 series and the newer B650 motherboards coming out that are a bit cheaper 

[Ameridas]

8 hours ago, Bismut said:

Where'd you get that from?
 

 

The Ryzen 7 5800X3D still goes strong, but it might be worth it to go for AM5 if your budget can stretch that far. Are you actually in need of more performance or can you wait/save up a while longer?

Well I'm I recently upgraded to the ultrawide ant I am experiencing stuttering in some games and not getting to 144fps, so my main reason for upgrade is that. As I mainly play league currrently, I guess I can wait a bit for some price drops.

[Penpilot]

@Ameridascan you tell me if your case supports a 240/280mm AIO? other than that i recomend theat you get a ASUS TUF series motherboard and theirs respective platforms mid range CPUs. so the 3 options for your new CPU will be i5-13400, i5-12600k, R5-7600x. if any budget is left afterword's, upgrade your cooler. these options cost around 450 in US so they will fit in your budget considering euro is worth more than USD

[Bismut]

1 minute ago, Ameridas said:

As I mainly play league currrently

Are you getting stutters in League? Your setup should be good for 4k 144FPS.

[Ameridas]

2 hours ago, shreshta said:

@Ameridascan you tell me if your case supports a 240/280mm AIO? other than that i recomend theat you get a ASUS TUF series motherboard and theirs respective platforms mid range CPUs. so the 3 options for your new CPU will be i5-13400, i5-12600k, R5-7600x. if any budget is left afterword's, upgrade your cooler. these options cost around 450 in US so they will fit in your budget considering euro is worth more than USD

Dont think so (masterbox lite). Unless I put it instead of the 3 intake fans at the front

[Ameridas]

2 hours ago, Bismut said:

Are you getting stutters in League? Your setup should be good for 4k 144FPS.

Not that much, but its noticable

[Penpilot]

8 hours ago, Ameridas said:

Not that much, but its noticable

i used to play rocket league at 720p at 30fps with my old pc lol

 

[Ameridas]

So would 9700 be enough to avoid switching the mobo and cooling? And would it remove the botleneck?