Seriously weird memory failures

[pimi8522]

I just built my fully new pc. About a month ago, I started having these weird crashes where browser pages would fail, then the pc would blue screen. BSOD's are always Page fault in non paged area, KMODE exceptions, memory related stuff.

At first I thought it was the drivers or BIOS, so I updated them all. No fix, so I RMA'd my GPU. Replacement came, no fix, so I ran a memory test and got corruption. I rma'd my RAM and my motherboard. Bought a completely different motherboard and ram, which arrived today, and the issues persist. By now I've replaced every component of my PC/bought certified good reputation compatible ones. I have no Idea what's wrong now.

Is it DDR5 janky-ness? Is it because AMD's DDR5 memory controller is still young? Please help.

SPECS:

CPU: Ryzen 5 7600X
GPU: RX7900XT
MOBO: Gigabyte B650 GAMING X AX (old one was ASUS TUF B650)
RAM: Kingston Fury Beast DDR5 32GB (2x16GB) 5200mHz
PSU: Corsair RM850

[Bismut]

Have you tried clocking your RAM a bit lower? It's unlikely to work, given that you've changed RAM and MoBo, but still.
What drive are you running the OS off of?
Have you installed any software that might mess with the RAM?

[pimi8522]

@Bismut I haven't tried clocking the ram yet, It is 5200mhz but I haven't enabled D.O.C.P/ X.M.P to reduce risks of instability, so they are running at 4800mhz. I'm running a fresh legit install of Windows 11 on a WD M.2 SSD. I didn't install anything yet but the AMD, mobo and related drivers/software and a few games on steam to test it out. I don't think there's any software messing with the ram.

[Bismut]

1 minute ago, pimi8522 said:

@Bismut I haven't tried clocking the ram yet, It is 5200mhz but I haven't enabled D.O.C.P/ X.M.P to reduce risks of instability, so they are running at 4800mhz. I'm running a fresh legit install of Windows 11 on a WD M.2 SSD. I didn't install anything yet but the AMD, mobo and related drivers/software and a few games on steam to test it out. I don't think there's any software messing with the ram.

Yeah, I really don't see anything that might cause the problem.
What's your airflow/power delivery like? Is the ram cooled and powered adequately? Likely not the cause either, but I'm grasping at straws.

[pimi8522]

@Bismut My CPU is air cooled through an Arctic-brand cooler, I don't know the exact model right now though. When under load I don't see any irregular temps and when I was RMA-ing everything I switched cases to a fractal north, which has good airflow so I really don't know what could be happening. I'm grasping at straws as much as you, I've tried nearly everything, that's why i'm suggesting AMD's memory controller being un-refined maybe. 

About power delivery, I do have a cablemod extension for the 24 pin, but even before putting that in the problem already existed, so I doubt its related. I'm not sure about powering the ram, I just plugged it in the mobo until it clicked on both sides, on slots A2 and B2 like the mobo manual suggested.

[Bismut]

1 minute ago, pimi8522 said:

fractal north

That thing has good airflow, I can't imagine it causing the problem (especially if your other temps are good)

 

4 minutes ago, pimi8522 said:

that's why i'm suggesting AMD's memory controller being un-refined maybe

It sounds like the most likely thing.

Is your RAM specifically listed as compatible with your mainboard, according to the mainboards manufacturer?
 

5 minutes ago, pimi8522 said:

I'm not sure about powering the ram

AM5 also does some power conversion on the actual modules themselves, but that should only be a problem on bad memory or with really unstable voltages coming from your PSU, for which yours is way too good (unless you got a lemon)

[MisterCrow]

Is it worth swapping out the PSU? Seems unlikely, but might be worth a shot. If your PSU is faulty, it could throw up a load of strange problems. At this point, it's a case of swap out each part individually and then test, until the problem goes away

[pimi8522]

@Bismut Yes, I checked the QVL compatibility list before buying anything. I don't know about the PSU, It's the only part I didn't RMA.

@MisterCrow I already replaced most parts through RMA'ing. That's whats weird.

[Bismut]

Just now, pimi8522 said:

It's the only part I didn't RMA

Sounds like the most likely part to be bad, then. You don't happen to have another PSU laying around that you could use to test?

[pimi8522]

@Bismut Sadly no, but if its the only weird part I don't mind checking what I can do.

[pimi8522]

I do have a dump file If anyone is interested in taking a look. https://www.mediafire.com/file/qpekkoc22rhpg1t/030823-7828-01.dmp/file

[Zomeguy]

Did you replace the storage drive as well? Are you using the same CPU? I don't see you mention that.

 

But as previously mentioned from the error messages you listed it sounds like a memory issue. So either RAM, motherboard or the CPU.

[Bismut]

22 minutes ago, Zomeguy said:

it sounds like a memory issue

Agree, but it seems unlikely that everything but the PSU has gone bad twice.

 

1 hour ago, pimi8522 said:

Sadly no, but if its the only weird part I don't mind checking what I can do.

Is there a Micro Center or something similar near you?

[Zomeguy]

1 hour ago, Bismut said:

Agree, but it seems unlikely that everything but the PSU has gone bad twice.

Yes when I had bad ram all the error messages were related to video driver and only crashed during games. After doing an Aida64 stress test it indicated my ram instead. Swapped my ram and all was fine.

 

So ya the error message may indicate one thing but it might be something else actually causing the problem. That's what makes PC troubleshooting tricky.

[Bismut]

15 hours ago, Zomeguy said:

So ya the error message may indicate one thing but it might be something else actually causing the problem. That's what makes PC troubleshooting tricky.

I know that one. @pimi8522have you tried using a single stick of RAM/placing your RAM in the "suboptimal" positions on your motherboard?