This is worth it, right?

[LegentOne]

I found this MSI GF65 Thin 10UE, comes with i5 10500h, 6c 12th, and a 3060, as well as 16 ddr4 ram amd 512gb ssd. Even 144hz, at just 850 euro.

 

Is it a once in a lifetime deal?

 

If you know a better similar deal, please comment. Even if it has 20 series gpus. 2060 is still faster than 3050ti.

[Guest]

cpu is a bit old, it came out at 2020. the gpu is good a 3060 but it only has 75w as a result the performance will be lower. while im not sure about how pricing are in EU, i believe you can get laptop with newer cpu and 3060 with higher wattage for the same price.

[ImWilly]

I'm not gonna say it's 'once a lifetime' deal, because laptop will always have sale to clear out old stock.

For Laptop, even with RTX 3060, my general rule of thumb is to check the maximum wattage (TDP)

Since this laptop only has a mere 75W, I would advise to look at other laptop that has at least 95 or 100W

 

Sorry to break your expectations and hope, mate

[ImWilly]

P.S.

 

In most cases, TDP set from laptop manufacturer is directly proportional to cooling capability.

Which means that laptop with higher TDP, will have better cooling (most of the case anyway).

MSI does have laptop with 130 TDP RTX 3060, but it cost way more than RTX 3070 Laptop and doesn't perform as well as RX 3070, which makes it pointless to have high TDP.

 

In my market region, laptop with Ryzen 5000 series CPU is 10-20% cheaper and perform better (most cases) than Intel 12th gen counterpart.

Hope this may help you find a good deal in your side.

[LegentOne]

10 hours ago, Chris2002 said:

cpu is a bit old, it came out at 2020. the gpu is good a 3060 but it only has 75w as a result the performance will be lower. while im not sure about how pricing are in EU, i believe you can get laptop with newer cpu and 3060 with higher wattage for the same price.

Do you have any recommendable sites where I can buy those?

I live in Albania, so it would be nise for it to be able to ship here.

[LegentOne]

9 hours ago, ImWilly said:

P.S.

 

In most cases, TDP set from laptop manufacturer is directly proportional to cooling capability.

Which means that laptop with higher TDP, will have better cooling (most of the case anyway).

MSI does have laptop with 130 TDP RTX 3060, but it cost way more than RTX 3070 Laptop and doesn't perform as well as RX 3070, which makes it pointless to have high TDP.

 

In my market region, laptop with Ryzen 5000 series CPU is 10-20% cheaper and perform better (most cases) than Intel 12th gen counterpart.

Hope this may help you find a good deal in your side.

Do you have any recommendable sites where I can buy those?

 

I live in Albania, so it would be nise for it to be able to ship here.

[ImWilly]

Sadly I'm not European, so I don't really know market place that are commonly used. The most common and widest as far as I know is Amazon.

 

Most that I can help, is general guidance on buying gaming laptop, especially on worthy budget:

1. CPU, since intel 13th gen isn't out yet, Ryzen may be favorable but it depends on your needs.

Choose intel if you rarely take your laptop outside, because it performs well while plugged and consume more power, but poor battery management while unplugged

Choose Ryzen if you wanna balanced use while gaming indoor or mobile working.

 

2. GPU, as informed before, most common CPU is RTX 3060, but try to carefully check TDP. Try to find at least 95W-120W. Some additional feature like "MUX switch" is optional, but it usually only available for higher end laptop. Example of laptop with 95W: Acer nitro 5, and laptop with 120W and MUX switch: Lenovo legion 5

 

3. As for RAM, currently all manufacturer are using DDR4 3200Mhz, try to make sure that 2 slot will be used (also called "Dual Channel"). If it only has 8GB single channel it doesn't matter, because you can buy another 8GB RAM and install it with ease. If it comes with 16GB, just make sure it's dual channel (2x8GB) instead of single 16GB. If it is single channel, you can still buy another 16GB RAM stick to make it dual channel (2x16GB)

 

4. For monitor, all gaming monitor already an IPS panel at 1080p 144Hz, sometimes for a bit higher end will have 165Hz, so it doesn't really matter at all.

 

5. For memory drive, most gaming will have NVME SSD, and at least 512GB, just make sure it has expandable slot whether it's SATA SSD or NVME SSD, so that you can add more storage later.

[jaslion]

It's very much not so woth it these msi thinq models are absolute overheaters and bad laptops. It;s also old stock 10th gen ones were amongst the worst with overheating