Pc parts picking

PIGINI · January 25, 2023

Budget (including currency): 3000 eur

Country: Spain

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: high intensity games (shooters etc), video editing

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):

Building a brand new pc for the first time, I have the parts listed and I would like your opinion on what I should add/remove/change.

I have all the peripherals except the monitor, I'm looking for a 240Hz 27/32 inch monitor, don't have a budget but don't want to spend a fortune on it. If you have something in mind please let me know

https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/F6GYGL

SpecTre12345 · January 26, 2023

Here's the changes I came up with:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/p6Fnv3

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor (€442.46 @ Amazon Espana)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 A-RGB 68.9 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€160.80 @ Amazon Espana)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 UD AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€251.04 @ LIFE Informatica)
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL40 Memory (€177.80 @ Neobyte)
Storage: Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€68.17 @ Amazon Espana)
Storage: Kingston NV2 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€126.80 @ Neobyte)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 3X OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card (€983.90 @ Alternate)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P500A D-RGB ATX Mid Tower Case (€159.90 @ Amazon Espana)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€148.34 @ LIFE Informatica)
Monitor: Samsung Odyssey G7 27.0" 2560 x 1440 240 Hz Curved Monitor (€599.89 @ Amazon Espana)
Total: €3119.10

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-01-26 01:10 CET+0100

I dropped down from a 13900k to a 13700k, because the 13900k is mostly unnecessary unless you are going to utilize all those cores and threads in productivity tasks.

I upgraded the cooler to a 420mm unit because 13th Gen runs hot and a 240mm cooler will simply not cut it.

Thought you were overpaying on the motherboard you chose without gaining anything from it, so went with the Gigabyte here.

Was able to fit in a 6000MHz kit of DDR5 for a few dollars more than your 5200MHz kit. Still retains RGB though.

I think the HDD is mostly not necessary these days. Therefore, I opted for another 2TB of NVMe SSD storage. While the Samsung might be faster than these NV2 drives, for most workloads you will not notice. And again, the secondary NVMe will be vastly faster than the spinning HDD you had. Here you have 3TB of total storage, and it's all fast NVMe storage. You should be able to install your OS, Programs, all your games and still have plenty leftover for other storage purposes.

I changed the GPU model, because all 4070 Ti's are going to perform within 1-3% of each other and this one is a sizeable amount cheaper. If you really need the extra percentage of performance I recommend overclocking the card yourself manually if you feel it's vital. Pretty easy to do, and there are many guides on how to do it.

I had to change the Case to accommodate the new CPU Cooler. I say it's well worth it because this one is an overall better case anyway.

I left the PSU alone because it's a great unit. You might be able to get something else for a better price, but probably not of that quality.

Lastly, this is the best 240Hz monitor I could find for the lowest price. It's 27" and 240Hz so it fits your criteria. Also, had to go with a 1440p panel to make use of that 4070 Ti.

With the monitor included, I was able to fit everything in for about €3100

TPCEA · January 26, 2023

If you'd like to decrease the cost of the set-up that Big S suggested, you could replace the RGB stuff with non-RGB, and replace the Phanteks with a generic case that fits what you're putting inside. Fancy cases are eye-candy and, despite the cable management, RGB LEDs, compartmentalization of the PSU, etc., those are primarily superficial concerns. My first PC was in a mid-tower that had what I needed - but had no beauty to it. I never had any problems and, since I didn't have cable management, I didn't have to struggle with that. It was an easy install. Expensive cases are over-rated - I built my son and I PCs with the Corsair iCUE 5000x, and I wouldn't get them again. Aside from the unnecessary features I've mentioned, and the price, there just isn't any real need. They look nice, but it's all unnecessary want. I could've saved 50% of my cost if I'd gotten an off-brand case, and 75% off the list price of the 5000x. Heck, you could paint a cheap case to make it look unique! What's important is the space you need for everything (including externally accessible bays if you want to hot-swap drives or use a DVD/BluRay player), enough space for fans and/or AIOs as well as all the things you're putting inside, and good airflow. Look at it this way: are you going to use your PC, or are you going to stare at its over-priced beauty?

If you're doing video editing, I would suggest that you consider which SSD should be your boot drive, taking into consideration how much space your games and video editing software will need (hint: I do both and 1TB wasn't enough). Of course, you can install your software on the OTHER SSD, thus solving that problem. Make your other SSD for installations and/or current data. Then, get a large-volume HDD to backup all your data to. There's nothing worse than losing everything because you didn't back it up and since you won't use the HDD for anything real-time and can let software do the work for you, the fact that it's SATA is enough. If you want to spend more money, get a SATA SSD, instead, but you won't get as much space for the cost! I realize that Big S didn' recommend an HDD, but being that your use-case is similar to mine, I think it is. I run out of drive space quickly (looking at stack of HDDs and SSDs), and it's amazing how few games it takes to fill up 1TB of a boot drive, so that second SSD is really critical. If you're going to shave off some excess in other areas, get two 2TB SSDs (M.2 PCIe 4x4 NVMe). As an example regarding the HDD, I got a Seagate 6TB Expansion for something like $35 - you'll pay an insane amount for the same space in even a SATA SSD.

I don't recommend Kingston, PNY and ADATA for anything because of their "Gateway"-esque product falsifications.

Is the 4070 Ti worth it? Not unless you are doing majorly intense graphics work. I'd suggest scaling back to something more reasonable. My RX 6800 XT is great.

Without knowing more details, it sounds like you're spending more than you need to and, based on my $2,100 PC (which I spent too much on), you could easily save yourself hundreds by scaling back.

Not really sure why you're going with the -K processor and Z mobo. I have a -K processor, too, and I realized that it was overkill. Nothing wrong with it but I probably could've built my set-up for up to 40% less if I'd just known more and not been given bad advice. The K- & Z- combo is great if you want to tweak and overclock but, unless you feel you need the extra ports, slots, etc., you could probably choose a "lesser" CPU and appropriate mobo.

PIGINI · January 26, 2023

21 minutes ago, BiG StroOnZ said:

Here's the changes I came up with:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/p6Fnv3

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor (€442.46 @ Amazon Espana)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 A-RGB 68.9 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€160.80 @ Amazon Espana)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 UD AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (€251.04 @ LIFE Informatica)
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL40 Memory (€177.80 @ Neobyte)
Storage: Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€68.17 @ Amazon Espana)
Storage: Kingston NV2 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (€126.80 @ Neobyte)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS 3X OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card (€983.90 @ Alternate)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P500A D-RGB ATX Mid Tower Case (€159.90 @ Amazon Espana)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850e 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€148.34 @ LIFE Informatica)
Monitor: Samsung Odyssey G7 27.0" 2560 x 1440 240 Hz Curved Monitor (€599.89 @ Amazon Espana)
Total: €3119.10

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-01-26 01:10 CET+0100

I dropped down from a 13900k to a 13700k, because the 13900k is mostly unnecessary unless you are going to utilize all those cores and threads in productivity tasks.

I upgraded the cooler to a 420mm unit because 13th Gen runs hot and a 240mm cooler will simply not cut it.

Thought you were overpaying on the motherboard you chose without gaining anything from it, so went with the Gigabyte here.

Was able to fit in a 6000MHz kit of DDR5 for a few dollars more than your 5200MHz kit. Still retains RGB though.

I think the HDD is mostly not necessary these days. Therefore, I opted for another 2TB of NVMe SSD storage. While the Samsung might be faster than these NV2 drives, for most workloads you will not notice. And again, the secondary NVMe will be vastly faster than the spinning HDD you had. Here you have 3TB of total storage, and it's all fast NVMe storage. You should be able to install your OS, Programs, all your games and still have plenty leftover for other storage purposes.

I changed the GPU model, because all 4070 Ti's are going to perform within 1-3% of each other and this one is a sizeable amount cheaper. If you really need the extra percentage of performance I recommend overclocking the card yourself manually if you feel it's vital. Pretty easy to do, and there are many guides on how to do it.

I had to change the Case to accommodate the new CPU Cooler. I say it's well worth it because this one is an overall better case anyway.

I left the PSU alone because it's a great unit. You might be able to get something else for a better price, but probably not of that quality.

Lastly, this is the best 240Hz monitor I could find for the lowest price. It's 27" and 240Hz so it fits your criteria. Also, had to go with a 1440p panel to make use of that 4070 Ti.

With the monitor included, I was able to fit everything in for about €3100

Thank you so much for the research and help! I will definitely use this.

One last question though, i saw the 32" samsung g7 on their official site for $600

(Link: https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/32--odyssey-g7-gaming-monitor-lc32g75tqsnxza/)

Do you think it's worth it? I mean it's extra 5" at the same price. There are also multiple models but I'm not sure what the difference is there.

Once again, thank you for the reply!!

SpecTre12345 · January 26, 2023

38 minutes ago, PIGINI said:

Thank you so much for the research and help! I will definitely use this.

One last question though, i saw the 32" samsung g7 on their official site for $600

(Link: https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/32--odyssey-g7-gaming-monitor-lc32g75tqsnxza/)

Do you think it's worth it? I mean it's extra 5" at the same price. There are also multiple models but I'm not sure what the difference is there.

Once again, thank you for the reply!!

You're very welcome, glad I could assist you.

I mean, I say going with the 32" makes complete sense, however can you get it in Spain from their website (as that is probably $600 USD)? If so, then I would say definitely go with it, it is worth it.

The different models are dictated by: resolution, size, and refresh rate. It appears the one in the link is the "G75T" model. That is 2560x1440 resolution, 32-inch, and 240Hz refresh rate. Which ticks all the boxes for your criteria.