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Yasin40

Hi everyone. 

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Really want new monitor under €250, can't choose betweeen these 6 so pls helpScreenshot_2022-12-10-23-30-57-406_com.android.chrome.thumb.jpg.2a8a877a6d24d39c812269efdc1651c7.jpg

 

The links to the monitors should be in this "monitor 2022" list.

https://tweakers.net/gallery/858655/inventaris/?inv_id=3087284

 

I really want to finally after 8 years upgrade from my 32 inch 1080p monitor to something nicer.

I decided on 1440p 27" as that seems to be a reasonable spec for quality, budget and what my pc can actually run games on.

Now the trouble is my budget is no more than 250 euro's and I have found these 6 monitors within that limit, but I just can't figure out which one would be best.

They all have pretty much the same specs bar some being VA instead of IPS and give or take 20Hz.

What would you recommend and why?

Thanks for your advice :)

 

 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Yasin40 said:

Hi everyone. 

TL;DR

Really want new monitor under €250, can't choose betweeen these 6 so pls helpScreenshot_2022-12-10-23-30-57-406_com.android.chrome.thumb.jpg.2a8a877a6d24d39c812269efdc1651c7.jpg

 

The links to the monitors should be in this "monitor 2022" list.

https://tweakers.net/gallery/858655/inventaris/?inv_id=3087284

 

I really want to finally after 8 years upgrade from my 32 inch 1080p monitor to something nicer.

I decided on 1440p 27" as that seems to be a reasonable spec for quality, budget and what my pc can actually run games on.

Now the trouble is my budget is no more than 250 euro's and I have found these 6 monitors within that limit, but I just can't figure out which one would be best.

They all have pretty much the same specs bar some being VA instead of IPS and give or take 20Hz.

What would you recommend and why?

Thanks for your advice 🙂

 

 

 

 

 

Please only take IPS as cheap VA never good with black smearing issue where some is very serious.

I suggest you increase a bit your budget to 300 ~ 350 euro's to get a proper nice monitor in 27" 1440p.

 

Below is some best 27" 1440p monitor but all out from your budget

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Monitor: Samsung Odyssey OLED G9 49" 5120x1440 240hz QD-OLED HDR, LG OLED Flex 42LX3QPSA 41.5" 3840x2160 bendable 120hz WOLED, AOC 24G2SP 24" 1920x1080 165hz SDR, LG UltraGear Gaming Monitor 34" 34GN850 3440x1440 144hz (160hz OC) NanoIPS HDR, LG Ultrawide Gaming Monitor 34" 34UC79G 2560x1080 144hz IPS SDR, LG 24MK600 24" 1920x1080 75hz Freesync IPS SDR, BenQ EW2440ZH 24" 1920x1080 75hz VA SDR.


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10 hours ago, Andrewtst said:

Please only take IPS as cheap VA never good with black smearing issue where some is very serious.

I suggest you increase a bit your budget to 300 ~ 350 euro's to get a proper nice monitor in 27" 1440p.

 

Below is some best 27" 1440p monitor but all out from your budget

Could you please explain to me or provide a link to an explanation as to what it is about those 300 euro monitors that makes them so much better? I believe you on your word but the specs and product pages give me no reason to think there is a big difference between the 200 and 300 euro options.

My apologies if this is a stupid question but I just don't understand.

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16 minutes ago, Yasin40 said:

Could you please explain to me or provide a link to an explanation as to what it is about those 300 euro monitors that makes them so much better? I believe you on your word but the specs and product pages give me no reason to think there is a big difference between the 200 and 300 euro options.

My apologies if this is a stupid question but I just don't understand.

Those few monitors is selected by the best monitors or notable mentioned from rtings.com

The best monitor is updated from time to time in recent updates.

 

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/by-usage/gaming

 

You can also check out Techspot (YouTube channel - Hardware Unboxed) for best of as well.

 

https://www.techspot.com/bestof/gaming-monitors-q4-2022/

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Laptop: Asus Vivobook "A Bathing Ape" - ASUS Vivobook S 15 OLED BAPE Edition: Intel i9-13900H, 16 GB RAM, 15.6" 2.8K 120hz OLED | Apple MacBook Pro 14" 2023: M2 Pro, 16 GB RAM, NVMe 512 GB | Asus VivoBook 15 OLED: Intel® Core™ i3-1125G4, Intel UHD, 8 GB RAM, Micron NVMe 512 GB | Illegear Z5 SKYLAKE: Intel Core i7-6700HQ, Nvidia Geforce GTX 970M, 16 GB RAM, ADATA SU800 M.2 SATA 512GB.

 

Monitor: Samsung Odyssey OLED G9 49" 5120x1440 240hz QD-OLED HDR, LG OLED Flex 42LX3QPSA 41.5" 3840x2160 bendable 120hz WOLED, AOC 24G2SP 24" 1920x1080 165hz SDR, LG UltraGear Gaming Monitor 34" 34GN850 3440x1440 144hz (160hz OC) NanoIPS HDR, LG Ultrawide Gaming Monitor 34" 34UC79G 2560x1080 144hz IPS SDR, LG 24MK600 24" 1920x1080 75hz Freesync IPS SDR, BenQ EW2440ZH 24" 1920x1080 75hz VA SDR.


Input Device: Asus ROG Azoth Wireless Mechanical KeyboardAsus ROG Chakram X Origin Wireless MouseLogitech G913 Lightspeed Wireless RGB Mechanical Gaming Keyboard, Logitech G502X Wireless Mouse, Logitech G903 Lightspeed HERO Wireless Gaming Mouse, Logitech Pro X, Logitech MX Keys, Logitech MX Master 3, XBOX Wireless Controller Covert Forces Edition, Corsair K70 RAPIDFIRE Mechanical Gaming Keyboard, Corsair Dark Core RGB Pro SE Wireless Gaming Mouse, Logitech MK850 Wireless Keyboard & Mouse Combos.


Entertainment: LG 55" C9 OLED HDR Smart UHD TV with AI ThinQ®, 65" Samsung AU7000 4K UHD Smart TV, SONOS Beam (Gen 2) Dolby Atmos Soundbar, SONOS Sub Mini, SONOS Era 100 x2, SONOS Era 300 Dolby Atmos, Logitech G560 2.1 USB & Bluetooth Speaker, Logitech Z625 2.1 THX Speaker, Edifier M1370BT 2.1 Bluetooth Speaker, LG SK9Y 5.1.2 channel Dolby Atmos, Hi-Res Audio SoundBar, Sony MDR-Z1R, Bang & Olufsen Beoplay EX, Sony WF-1000XM5, Sony WH-1000XM5, Sony WH-1000XM4, Apple AirPods Pro, Samsung Galaxy Buds2, Nvidia Shield TV Pro (2019 edition), Apple TV 4K (2017 & 2021 Edition), Chromecast with Google TV, Sony UBP-X700 UltraHD Blu-ray, Panasonic DMP-UB400 UltraHD Blu-ray.

 

Mobile & Smart Watch: Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max (Natural Titanium), Apple Watch Series 8 Stainless Steel with Milanese Loop (Graphite).

 

Others Gadgets: Asus SBW-06D2X-U Blu-ray RW Drive, 70 TB Ext. HDD, j5create JVCU100 USB HD Webcam with 360° rotation, ZTE UONU F620, Maxis Fibre WiFi 6 Router, Fantech MPR800 Soft Cloth RGB Gaming Mousepad, Fantech Headset Headphone Stand AC3001S RGB Lighting Base Tower, Infiniteracer RGB Gaming Chair

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5 hours ago, Yasin40 said:

Could you please explain to me or provide a link to an explanation as to what it is about those 300 euro monitors that makes them so much better? I believe you on your word but the specs and product pages give me no reason to think there is a big difference between the 200 and 300 euro options.

My apologies if this is a stupid question but I just don't understand.

I second this question - I don’t want to spend more on a monitor for the sake of spending more on a monitor. Everything I’ve seen from the 250 to 500 dollar range looks pretty darn comparable.

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5 hours ago, Andrewtst said:

Those few monitors is selected by the best monitors or notable mentioned from rtings.com

The best monitor is updated from time to time in recent updates.

 

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/by-usage/gaming

 

You can also check out Techspot (YouTube channel - Hardware Unboxed) for best of as well.

 

https://www.techspot.com/bestof/gaming-monitors-q4-2022/

You're right, thanks.

But the m27q p is not available at all where I live and I haven't heard those youtubers explain *why* those 300 euro 1440p IPS  monitors are better than the 200-250 euro versions from the same brands.

What is it about them?

Response time seems to be the same just like size, brightness, refresh rate and inputs.

Also I've seen many people recommend the M27Q P for about 250 but that and the popular ASUS monitor I can't find for under 350 euro's in the Netherlands, they're often over €400

I'm sorry if I seem annoying but I just don't get it

 

 

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@JimTheBeet@Yasin40 there are alot of things to cover, i'll attempt to keep it short

 

Generally a cheap VA monitor will smear, that itself is a dealbreaker for some. A VA monitor at the same price as an ips will usually have worse color, though at 100% srgb it's ok for some that require color accuracy. VA however does have better contrast than ips. You'd have to find a G7 (500usd) that doesn't smear.

 

You can try to see a S2722DGM in person and see how you like it.

 

For ips models, I generally look for 97+% argb coverage, a cheap AOC 24G2 will do the job at 1080p

 

For 1440p, the m27q-p might be the more recent option, but the 27GL83A is also in the same class although a bit older, see if that's available

 

imho on the consumer level crappy monitors have been sold for years but since 2018 theres been a huge leap of image quality in ips and oled monitors to the point where it's getting ridiculous.

 

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2 hours ago, xg32 said:

@JimTheBeet@Yasin40 there are alot of things to cover, i'll attempt to keep it short

 

Generally a cheap VA monitor will smear, that itself is a dealbreaker for some. A VA monitor at the same price as an ips will usually have worse color, though at 100% srgb it's ok for some that require color accuracy. VA however does have better contrast than ips. You'd have to find a G7 (500usd) that doesn't smear.

 

You can try to see a S2722DGM in person and see how you like it.

 

For ips models, I generally look for 97+% argb coverage, a cheap AOC 24G2 will do the job at 1080p

 

For 1440p, the m27q-p might be the more recent option, but the 27GL83A is also in the same class although a bit older, see if that's available

 

imho on the consumer level crappy monitors have been sold for years but since 2018 theres been a huge leap of image quality in ips and oled monitors to the point where it's getting ridiculous.

 

Thanks!

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1 hour ago, xg32 said:

@JimTheBeet@Yasin40 there are alot of things to cover, i'll attempt to keep it short

 

Generally a cheap VA monitor will smear, that itself is a dealbreaker for some. A VA monitor at the same price as an ips will usually have worse color, though at 100% srgb it's ok for some that require color accuracy. VA however does have better contrast than ips. You'd have to find a G7 (500usd) that doesn't smear.

 

You can try to see a S2722DGM in person and see how you like it.

 

For ips models, I generally look for 97+% argb coverage, a cheap AOC 24G2 will do the job at 1080p

 

For 1440p, the m27q-p might be the more recent option, but the 27GL83A is also in the same class although a bit older, see if that's available

 

imho on the consumer level crappy monitors have been sold for years but since 2018 theres been a huge leap of image quality in ips and oled monitors to the point where it's getting ridiculous.

 

I settled on the LG 27GN800-B because the Gigabyte monitor isn't available here for under 450 after many hours of comparing to all monitors under 320 euro because that is my max budget.
Thanks for your help

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