Intel scammed me!! Wow!

[daddrian]

WOW!!!

 

So I bought an Intel Core i3-4130 which, has Intel HD 4400. Or does it?

 

Intel HD 4400 specs on every site: GT2, 20 execution units, 160 cores,

My Intel HD 4400 specs: GT1.5, 12 execution units, 96 cores.

 

After reading a forum post, I found out that the desktop haswell iGPU is CUT IN HALF, and only laptops have the full HD 4400 with 20 execution units. This is not written anywhere on the internet that there's 2 versions of HD 4400. They specifically go out of their way to gimp the performance of PC integrated graphics.

 

Even techpowerup lists the full 20 EU HD 4400 being available in the desktop i3's, and they don't have the cut version in their database. Intel itself doesn't list 2 versions of HD 4400!

 

JUST WOW!!! DESKTOP HD 4400 IS SLOWER THAN DESKTOP HD 4000!!!!!

 

Every Intel HD pre-Skylake is a scam one way or another!!! If I deep dive a sky lake I might find a scam in there too!

 

 

[Jurrunio]

It's trash for performance anyway, even when they are new.

[daddrian]

5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

It's trash for performance anyway, even when they are new.

You know what, this is true, but why having the desktop version the cut version of the laptop???? This makes no sense, PC should be more powerful????

[rippy4500]

2 minutes ago, mrnewdaddy-305 said:

You know what, this is true, but why having the desktop version the cut version of the laptop???? This makes no sense, PC should be more powerful????

I think its because they expect most desktop users to install a discrete gpu and not use the igpu, so they save money by cutting down the gpu a little.

[daddrian]

1 minute ago, rippy4500 said:

I think its because they expect most desktop users to install a discrete gpu and not use the igpu, so they save money by cutting down the gpu a little.

i like your pfp

 

but that's not a little

 

that's half

 

I also have an i5-4440 with full HD 4600 for reference

 

HD 4600 should be HD 4400 just higher clocked

 

but as my HD 4400 is cut in half

 

I have 20fps in csgo 720p but over 60fps with hd 4600

 

Intel scammed everyone in 2013

[rippy4500]

1 minute ago, mrnewdaddy-305 said:

i like your pfp

 

but that's not a little

 

that's half

 

I also have an i5-4440 with full HD 4600 for reference

 

HD 4600 should be HD 4400 just higher clocked

 

but as my HD 4400 is cut in half

 

I have 20fps in csgo 720p but over 60fps with hd 4600

 

Intel scammed everyone in 2013

Neither of them are that good anyways. Are you able to get a discrete gpu to use instead?

[1982 Original]

38 minutes ago, mrnewdaddy-305 said:

WOW!!!

 

So I bought an Intel Core i3-4130 which, has Intel HD 4400. Or does it?

 

Intel HD 4400 specs on every site: GT2, 20 execution units, 160 cores,

My Intel HD 4400 specs: GT1.5, 12 execution units, 96 cores.

 

After reading a forum post, I found out that the desktop haswell iGPU is CUT IN HALF, and only laptops have the full HD 4400 with 20 execution units. This is not written anywhere on the internet that there's 2 versions of HD 4400. They specifically go out of their way to gimp the performance of PC integrated graphics.

 

Even techpowerup lists the full 20 EU HD 4400 being available in the desktop i3's, and they don't have the cut version in their database. Intel itself doesn't list 2 versions of HD 4400!

 

JUST WOW!!! DESKTOP HD 4400 IS SLOWER THAN DESKTOP HD 4000!!!!!

 

Every Intel HD pre-Skylake is a scam one way or another!!! If I deep dive a sky lake I might find a scam in there too!

 

 

That is sneaky.  If you're out there buying 9 year old processors, you at least expect to get the entire processor.

[daddrian]

1 minute ago, 1982 Original said:

That is sneaky.  If you're out there buying 9 year old processors, you at least expect to get the entire processor.

A scam is a scam, and this is indeed very sneaky. I made this post because no one talked about it in 9 years,  so I must take the matter into my own hands.

[Chikensoops]

You sound very mad at a 9 year old processor that was supposed to be weak, but was instead weaker. Probably no one talked about it because no one really cares since even back then, it was supposed to be a low end processor. Just get a dedicated GPU, literally any one of them still in production. Dare I say it even a GT710 will do you better, although just barely maybe. Intel can basically do anything they want and we just have to deal with it.

[NF-A12x25]

[daddrian]

38 minutes ago, Chikensoops said:

 Intel can basically do anything they want and we just have to deal with it.

This. My purpose here is to bring awareness and expose what has been hidden from the public for 9 years through no forum posts. What I have found is a revelation.This is the first post ever which exposes Intel iGPUs evolving backwards.

 

cutting gpu chip  - less production costs

 

>intel after doing integrated gpu scams

 

[Chikensoops]

22 minutes ago, mrnewdaddy-305 said:

This. My purpose here is to bring awareness and expose what has been hidden from the public for 9 years through no forum posts. What I have found is a revelation.This is the first post ever which exposes Intel iGPUs evolving backwards.

 

cutting gpu chip  - less production costs

 

>intel after doing integrated gpu scams

 

I think you completely missed the point of what I said. Basically, no one really cares about a low end chip from 9 years ago. The fact that there weren't any posts about it further suggests that at the time, people didn't care either. "Oh wow, this cpu sucks! But it is supposed to suck, so I guess that should be right." Is probably what those people felt back then.

[Alex Atkin UK]

45 minutes ago, Chikensoops said:

I think you completely missed the point of what I said. Basically, no one really cares about a low end chip from 9 years ago. The fact that there weren't any posts about it further suggests that at the time, people didn't care either. "Oh wow, this cpu sucks! But it is supposed to suck, so I guess that should be right." Is probably what those people felt back then.

They have a legitimate point though, its not that it sucks, its not that its cut-down, its the fact they don't even tell you on their own website!

 

Intel ARK should be FAR more exhaustive about specifics than it is.  They mess up all the time, including not being specific about things like CNVio support and its lack of forwards compatibility (you can't use a V2 card in a V1 slot).  They even get supported instructions wrong sometimes such as saying a CPU doesn't have AES acceleration when it does, this shouldn't happen.

[Jurrunio]

7 hours ago, mrnewdaddy-305 said:

You know what, this is true, but why having the desktop version the cut version of the laptop???? This makes no sense, PC should be more powerful????

Actually for GPUs, laptops should get the better deal if they cant both get the same hardware (maybe for using chips with some defects). Laptops are not only limited by lower power limit, they dont get an option for adding graphics cards later. What is in the CPU is all they have and they need the effeciency of lower frequency to meet the power limit.

 

5 hours ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

They have a legitimate point though, its not that it sucks, its not that its cut-down, its the fact they don't even tell you on their own website!

 

Intel ARK should be FAR more exhaustive about specifics than it is.  They mess up all the time, including not being specific about things like CNVio support and its lack of forwards compatibility (you can't use a V2 card in a V1 slot).  They even get supported instructions wrong sometimes such as saying a CPU doesn't have AES acceleration when it does, this shouldn't happen.

At least they started to list GPU execution unit counts and API support since 11th gen.

[MichiganBroadband]

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