What do you think?

[Reaper332]

Budget (including currency): $2000 USD

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming and watching media. Mostly single player titles.

Other details: Don't need any peripherals besides a monitor and maybe some budget speakers. Upgrading from a 7 year old laptop (GTX 970m). This will be my first build. 

 

Hey,

I put together this build and I'm looking for suggestions/improvements. Looking for the best value I can get.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xfQh8r

 

Also, does it make sense to go for a 6900XT and get a cheaper monitor?

 

 

 

[DEADPOOLSMOM]

3 minutes ago, Reaper332 said:

Budget (including currency): $2000 USD

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming and watching media. Mostly single player titles.

Other details: Don't need any peripherals besides a monitor and maybe some budget speakers. Upgrading from a 7 year old laptop (GTX 970m). This will be my first build. 

 

Hey,

I put together this build and I'm looking for suggestions/improvements. Looking for the best value I can get.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xfQh8r

 

Also, does it make sense to go for a 6900XT and get a cheaper monitor?

 

 

 

Decent list, but that SSD is overpriced and those case fans blow chunks

[RONOTHAN##]

1 minute ago, Reaper332 said:

Also, does it make sense to go for a 6900XT and get a cheaper monitor?

Not really, the 6800 XT isn't really that much slower than the 6900 XT, and a nicer monitor would be needed to even notice a difference between the 6900 XT and 6800 XT. 

 

This current list is pretty good, only a couple small things I'd change:

1. Don't get a 980 Pro, it's super overkill for gaming desktop workloads. An SN770 would be more than enough for a bit less

2. You can get better case fans for about that price. The Arctic P12s are usually a really good value plus they're can be had in a 5 pack for almost nothing. 

3. RAM is a little expensive for what it is. Realistically there's not that much benefit from 3600 CL16 compared to 3600 CL18, and you can get the CL16 kits for a fair bit less. 

 

As is, the list is fine, you can just get a slightly better value with those improvements. 

[brob]

The NVMe connector that is serviced by the CPU has a heat sink. There should be no need to buy a drive with an integral heatsink.

 

[Reaper332]

I went with the 980 Pro since it was on sale. 

The price for heatsink/non heatsink versions are the same. 

 

@RONOTHAN##the SN770 looks to be the same price as the 980 pro. Both are $179. Any other cheaper suggestions?

I changed the fans to the Artic P12 5 pack. Also went for a cheaper RAM(Is this still good for performance)?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7CmWC6

 

Thanks again!

 

 

[Ohundreds]

21 minutes ago, Reaper332 said:

I went with the 980 Pro since it was on sale. 

The price for heatsink/non heatsink versions are the same. 

 

@RONOTHAN##the SN770 looks to be the same price as the 980 pro. Both are $179. Any other cheaper suggestions?

I changed the fans to the Artic P12 5 pack. Also went for a cheaper RAM(Is this still good for performance)?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7CmWC6

 

Thanks again!

 

 

This one is an good option as well: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3QXJ7P/kingston-nv2-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-snv2s2000g

[RONOTHAN##]

3 hours ago, Reaper332 said:

I went with the 980 Pro since it was on sale. 

The price for heatsink/non heatsink versions are the same. 

 

@RONOTHAN##the SN770 looks to be the same price as the 980 pro. Both are $179. Any other cheaper suggestions?

I changed the fans to the Artic P12 5 pack. Also went for a cheaper RAM(Is this still good for performance)?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7CmWC6

 

Thanks again!

 

 

I was going off memory for the SN770 price, it's usually $30 less than the 980 Pro. The 970 Evo should be $150 and a great pick for an OS drive, as well as some cheaper options like the M470. One of those should do fine. 

 

RAM should do just fine, the extra $15 for CL16 isn't really worth it in the grand scheme of things

[Somerandomtechyboi]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CzFppH

32gb ram + 6900xt as upgrades

 

Do not even think about fast rams till you are willing to overclock, 3200 cl16, 3600 cl18, overclock, only 3 options available. Oh and cas doesnt do shit for performance youll get better performance tightening trfc, tfaw, trc, trrd-l/s, basically all the subtimings cause primaries are irrelevant despite their name

 

Cut a crapton of cost on stuff like case and psu

[Reaper332]

On 11/17/2022 at 10:47 PM, Somerandomtechyboi said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CzFppH

32gb ram + 6900xt as upgrades

 

Do not even think about fast rams till you are willing to overclock, 3200 cl16, 3600 cl18, overclock, only 3 options available. Oh and cas doesnt do shit for performance youll get better performance tightening trfc, tfaw, trc, trrd-l/s, basically all the subtimings cause primaries are irrelevant despite their name

 

Cut a crapton of cost on stuff like case and psu

 

Thanks for the feedback. I'm amazed you could fit a 6900 XT in the same budget!

 

Can you please explain some parts of your suggested build as I'm new to this

RAM: why 3600 cl16 isn't worth it and how come you went up to 32GB, I had read that 16 GB is plenty for most use cases.

PSU: While the PSU is much cheaper, will it be enough? I though the minimum was to go for 1.5 times the estimated wattage from PC part picker. 

Fans: Do you think the fans from my build weren't needed?

Motherboard: Any other suggestions on a good motherboard.

 

 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

7 minutes ago, Reaper332 said:

RAM: why 3600 cl16 isn't worth it and how come you went up to 32GB, I had read that 16 GB is plenty for most use cases.

Cas latency and primaries are just irrelevant to ram performance, next to nothing in gains tightning primaries except trcd on intel as theyre just not used as much as the secondaries or tertiaries, not useless but not worth dumping voltage or $ into hence why the focus is on trfc, trc, trrd-l/s, tfaw, and basically all the tertiaries because they measurably impact ram performance when tightened

 

32gb is more of a why not because ddr4 prices have fallen through the floor so may aswell just incase you may need extra ram in the future

 

11 minutes ago, Reaper332 said:

PSU: While the PSU is much cheaper, will it be enough? I though the minimum was to go for 1.5 times the estimated wattage from PC part picker. 

Estimated wattage is garbage same for psu wattage calculators, just follow what the gpu psu reccomendation is and you are good to go

 

11 minutes ago, Reaper332 said:

Fans: Do you think the fans from my build weren't needed?

Not really when you can get a case with complete airflow (2-3 front fans, 1 rear fan) though it seems like i made abit of a goof not including an extra fan as the case i chose doesnt have a rear faan, so for fan reccomendation i reccomend arctic p12 as they are on par with noctua while being very cheap relative to performance

 

13 minutes ago, Reaper332 said:

Motherboard: Any other suggestions on a good motherboard.

Board you chose is already solid esp at that price, if it doesnt come with updated bios a pc shop can update for you or you can update yourself via the jtpm header with a cheap ch341a usb bios programmer and some dupont male-female jumper wires but that may be abit annoying to do since you gotta match the pinouts (fancy puzzle game basically)

[Reaper332]

1 hour ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Cas latency and primaries are just irrelevant to ram performance, next to nothing in gains tightning primaries except trcd on intel as theyre just not used as much as the secondaries or tertiaries, not useless but not worth dumping voltage or $ into hence why the focus is on trfc, trc, trrd-l/s, tfaw, and basically all the tertiaries because they measurably impact ram performance when tightened

 

32gb is more of a why not because ddr4 prices have fallen through the floor so may aswell just incase you may need extra ram in the future

 

Estimated wattage is garbage same for psu wattage calculators, just follow what the gpu psu reccomendation is and you are good to go

 

Not really when you can get a case with complete airflow (2-3 front fans, 1 rear fan) though it seems like i made abit of a goof not including an extra fan as the case i chose doesnt have a rear faan, so for fan reccomendation i reccomend arctic p12 as they are on par with noctua while being very cheap relative to performance

 

Board you chose is already solid esp at that price, if it doesnt come with updated bios a pc shop can update for you or you can update yourself via the jtpm header with a cheap ch341a usb bios programmer and some dupont male-female jumper wires but that may be abit annoying to do since you gotta match the pinouts (fancy puzzle game basically)

Thank you so much for the information, considering what you said regarding motherboards, I thought it might be better to go with AMD and avoid flashing the BIOS.

I put together these two builds taking your advice, Case with fans, cheaper RAM (3200)  https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mj8VyK and https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fsz39r 

 

What do you think and considering the cost difference of $164, what's your opinion on if this is worth it or not?

[Somerandomtechyboi]

3 hours ago, Reaper332 said:

Thank you so much for the information, considering what you said regarding motherboards, I thought it might be better to go with AMD and avoid flashing the BIOS.

I put together these two builds taking your advice, Case with fans, cheaper RAM (3200)  https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mj8VyK and https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fsz39r 

 

What do you think and considering the cost difference of $164, what's your opinion on if this is worth it or not?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vdyh8r

Abit of extra cost cutting and also swapped the psu for the non white version since prices seem to change alot

 

Next board above the b550m pg riptide would be the b550 aorus pro v2 atleast i/o wise which is really the only thing that you need to consider when picking a board since the 5800x3d isnt exactly power hungry. Also just avoid asus unless its a good deal since asus are just overpriced asf while their competitiors offer superior products at the same pricepoint