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Depends; only buy from sellers with above 90% reputation and multiple sales.

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Like anything used it's up to your luck. You could land a card that will work flawlessly for years or it can start showing dying memory symptoms after just a month. It all depends on the price. At $400 or less i would risk it, if the seller has a good rating. Anything above that is just not worth it. Too much money for abused GPU that should've cost $649... 2 years ago

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Depends; only buy from sellers with above 90% reputation and multiple sales.

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They are as safe or unsafe as anything else you buy on eBay. You have used eBay before right? The phrasing of the question also implies there would be a difference in how safe it is to buy old AMD cards from eBay versus old Nvidia cards, which doesn't make sense to me...?

 

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Yeah, they're pretty good. They don't have the same memory issues that you can get on G6X cards like the 3080/3090 if they were used for mining, so it's pretty darn safe. 

 

The only thing that can happen is if you find a mining card, they can sometimes have a mining optimized VBIOS, which just means you need to flash a consumer BIOS from TechPowerUp. 

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1 minute ago, Middcore said:

They are as safe or unsafe as anything else you buy on eBay. You have used eBay before right? The phrasing of the question also implies there would be a difference in how safe it is to buy old AMD cards from eBay versus old Nvidia cards, which doesn't make sense to me...?

 

eBay sides with buyers almost to a fault in any dispute.

Nvidia cards are the first choice for miners, mining is much more hard on the GPU. AMD cards aren't often used for mining.

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1 minute ago, Delver said:

Nvidia cards are the first choice for miners, mining is much more hard on the GPU. AMD cards aren't often used for mining.

I personally know a bunch of miners who exclusively went for AMD cards (mostly 6800s, though a couple other cards as well) since the reference models were the easiest to get for MSRP during the shortage. 

 

Miners just used whatever cards they got they're hands on. They preferred Nvidia, yes, but at the same time AMD cards weren't avoided either, and they still occasionally got good deals on AMD cards that were put to mining use. 

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Here in Europe AMD cards were preffered because of the better efficiency. Yes, they had lower hash rates, but the power bill was considerably less when your GPU could work 10% slower for half the power. That's why most of EU mining rigs are actually AMD based because our electricity costs an arm and a leg.

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