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Budget (including currency): 550GBP

Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Mainly Dota 2 and WoW, but ideally new titles as well at better settings.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Hello

I am building a new PC and I am here with the eternal discussion about the 5800x3D and 13600K(F). 

I have seen that the Intel is the better rounded up CPU, and the performance in gaming is pretty identical over 1080p, but there is something I am curious of and I couldn't find a lot about online. Should the 5800x3D be stronger choice given the fact that I will be playing WoW on the machine with the extra cache? I couldn't find much about the 13600K in that regard.

Also, pairing the 5800x3D with a B550 mobo and a Deepcool AK620 cooler is about 30 GBP cheaper compared to the same cooler and a B660 and ddr4 for the Intel (or about 50GBP with a cheap Z690). Although I am also not yet sure how the Intel would look with those, would it need a better mobo and cooler?

Thanks!

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4 minutes ago, coosmiyn said:

My bad. It's a 6800XT

Well then, nice pairing.

Make sure that the B550 you choose has adequate VRM cooling, not all boards created equally.

If the board you choose has adequate VRM cooling, the cheaper option is better, there is no upgradability in both platforms anyway, might as well pick the cheapest option, difference would be too small to notice.

 

Also, if you're going with 13th gen, DDR5 is the way to go, DDR4 will left some performance out of the table.

If I buy something, I'd want to perform the bet it could, otherwise I won't get my money's worth.

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33 minutes ago, Dukesilver27- said:

Also, if you're going with 13th gen, DDR5 is the way to go, DDR4 will left some performance out of the table.

no. DDR4 is the way to go because current gen DDR5 is both overpriced and slow, just like early DDR4.

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41 minutes ago, NF-A12x25 said:

no. DDR4 is the way to go because current gen DDR5 is both overpriced and slow, just like early DDR4.

This guy again.

 

Did I say price? I said pick the cheaper option, go with 13th gen only if you going with DDR5.

Oh and also, slow? You're saying that as if you know better than AMD or Intel.

AMD already said that 6000 is the sweet spot, Intel sent out DDR5 6400 to reviewers. Yes there are 7000+ DDR5s, but they definitely won't be the mainstream speed, just look at DDR4, people either pick 3200 or 3600.

 

Have you seen benchmarks comparing DDR4 and DDR5 for 13th gen? For 12th gen, DDR5 is not worth it, but 13th gen is different.

The cost per frame for DDR5 6400 is cheaper than DDR4 3600 (HUB review).

 

As the time goes by, games would utilize faster RAM too because devs would build the game with the current gen hardware, the lead over DDR4 will keep growing. If even old games could benefit from DDR5, imagine newer games. We're only at the early adopter stages of DDR5, and some games already run much faster with DDR5.

 

If budget allows it and If now, you're building a new PC that you expect to last at least 4 years, would you build a DDR4 or DDR5 system?

Knowing that DDR5 performs better than DDR4 and when it becomes the mainstream it will perform even better. When building a PC, the aim is not only for current games, but also future games, therefore you have to think ahead.

 

Seriously dude, think before you argue. One of these days, I'm not even going to bother with replying you.

Occassionaly visits the forum when I have nothing to do at work.

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29 minutes ago, NF-A12x25 said:

nah just won’t engage with bad faith arguments that aren’t even correct

Sure, good luck, in life, seriously, you'll need it with that head.

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