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Honestly at first i wasnt interested but then i saw the socketed bios 🙂

 

 

I have absolutely no idea what the hell shuttle even is and what this mobos oem is, atleast with that acer x58 i know some of them foxconn bioses have a chance of working since foxconn is the oem that made em but here i have absolutely no idea aside from looking at the bios chip it uses and what bios it uses (pheonix, award, ami), though this should be mostly sufficient since bioses of the same type are mostly crosscompatible (ex ami bioses are mostly cross compatible p5q -> tp45, p45 neo, p45 deluxe asrock, ecs p45 black, etc. Yes i did flash these on my p5q xD, even the giga ep45 bioses which are pheonix almost posted but stuck on 26 right before it outputs video)

 

Its going for cheap so i may consider getting it if im certain i can crossflash to a better bios for overclocking, the acer even if that dont work with crossflashing i can still sell for 30$ and make 7$ profit (things going for 23$ like this board) but this shuttle thingy has a weird af form factor so no way im getting a profit aside from crossflash for oc

 

 

No ill likely not use any of these crossflashed oem boards as a proper oc board since the final goal is just getting a giga ex58 ud3r (41$) unless they cant sell but at that point id just be using em as a guinea pig for oc shenanigans

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Shuttle, as in Shuttle XPC. 

Here's one still in its case (slightly different board but same idea)

Shuttle XPC Shuttle XPC Glamor SG45 For Parts Only | eBay

 

I really love the cases of these guys.

Not sure of BIOS though

What the horse considers play, the monkey considers business...

But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

Works Cited

      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

      Darbre PD. Metalloestrogens: an emerging class of inorganic xenoestrogens with potential to add to the oestrogenic burden of the human breast. J Appl Toxicol. 2006 May-Jun;26(3):191-7. doi: 10.1002/jat.1135. PMID: 16489580.

      Satarug S, Garrett SH, Sens MA, Sens DA. Cadmium, environmental exposure, and health outcomes. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Feb;118(2):182-90. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901234. PMID: 20123617; PMCID: PMC2831915.

      McElroy JA, Shafer MM, Trentham-Dietz A, Hampton JM, Newcomb PA. Cadmium exposure and breast cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Jun 21;98(12):869-73. doi: 10.1093/jnci/djj233. PMID: 16788160.

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Shuttle has been making SFF PC's for ages. That board looks to be part of one of their X58 barebones systems, specifically the Shuttle SX58H7.

 

https://paulstamatiou.com/how-to-build-microsoft-windows-7-intel-core-i7-pc/

 

https://www.expertreviews.co.uk/pcs/pc-cases/49926/shuttle-sx58j3-review

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1 minute ago, Mel0n. said:

Shuttle, as in Shuttle XPC. 

Here's one still in its case

Shuttle XPC Shuttle XPC Glamor SG45 For Parts Only | eBay

 

I really love the cases of these guys

I think the actual model is the sx58h7

 

Looking around the internet i found some non english review (idk the language) and apparently the board can actually overclock, has the bclk settings, uncore settings, voltages not stupidly locked down hopefully because vtt, pll, vcore, vdimm, it even has ioh pll which my p6t didnt have, apparently this rando shuttle board demolishes my p6t settings wise xD

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1 minute ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

I think the actual model is the sx58h7

 

Looking around the internet i found some non english review (idk the language) and apparently the board can actually overclock, has the bclk settings, uncore settings, voltages not stupidly locked down hopefully because vtt, pll, vcore, vdimm, it even has ioh pll which my p6t didnt have, apparently this rando shuttle board demolishes my p6t settings wise xD

Oh these Shuttle systems are amazing and very well built. They were the ITX gaming builds of the day, if you will. The Silverstone SG13 of the early 2000s. 

Saw one of these with a Radeon X1950 XTX in it on ebay a few months ago. They're quite great little systems, despite their somewhat unassuming looks.

What the horse considers play, the monkey considers business...

But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

Works Cited

      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

      Darbre PD. Metalloestrogens: an emerging class of inorganic xenoestrogens with potential to add to the oestrogenic burden of the human breast. J Appl Toxicol. 2006 May-Jun;26(3):191-7. doi: 10.1002/jat.1135. PMID: 16489580.

      Satarug S, Garrett SH, Sens MA, Sens DA. Cadmium, environmental exposure, and health outcomes. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Feb;118(2):182-90. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901234. PMID: 20123617; PMCID: PMC2831915.

      McElroy JA, Shafer MM, Trentham-Dietz A, Hampton JM, Newcomb PA. Cadmium exposure and breast cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Jun 21;98(12):869-73. doi: 10.1093/jnci/djj233. PMID: 16788160.

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Oh these Shuttle systems are amazing and very well built. They were the ITX gaming builds of the day, if you will. The Silverstone SG13 of the early 2000s. 

Saw one of these with a Radeon X1950 XTX in it on ebay a few months ago. They're quite great little systems, despite their somewhat unassuming looks.

Damn

Well i only really got into pcs in 2018 and became an actual enthusiast maybe sometime around 2020 so never really knew anything about these older shuttles and stuff, first instance of me even being interested in pcs was 2012 but by that time i think it was sandy or ivy that was new so still ahead of x58 but that was 5 year old me

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Damn

Well i only really got into pcs in 2018 and became an actual enthusiast maybe sometime around 2020 so never really knew anything about these older shuttles and stuff, first instance of me even being interested in pcs was 2012 but by that time i think it was sandy or ivy that was new so still ahead of x58 but that was 5 year old me

I'm close to the age of the Pentium Dual-Core E2160, so I don't have any at-the-time firsthand experience with hardware this old. I have had the privilege of finding one of these guys in ewaste, though... sold it because it was way too valuable to keep around (and I already had tons of 775 stuff), but I had some good fun with it for a few days. Exact model I linked in the ebay listing. "Built" my first in 2019, bit off way more than I could chew with refurbishing an old workstation but honestly I'm glad I was plunged into that driver support hell since I learned quite a lot

What the horse considers play, the monkey considers business...

But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

Works Cited

      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

      Darbre PD. Metalloestrogens: an emerging class of inorganic xenoestrogens with potential to add to the oestrogenic burden of the human breast. J Appl Toxicol. 2006 May-Jun;26(3):191-7. doi: 10.1002/jat.1135. PMID: 16489580.

      Satarug S, Garrett SH, Sens MA, Sens DA. Cadmium, environmental exposure, and health outcomes. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Feb;118(2):182-90. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901234. PMID: 20123617; PMCID: PMC2831915.

      McElroy JA, Shafer MM, Trentham-Dietz A, Hampton JM, Newcomb PA. Cadmium exposure and breast cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Jun 21;98(12):869-73. doi: 10.1093/jnci/djj233. PMID: 16788160.

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I'm close to the age of the Pentium Dual-Core E2160, so I don't have any at-the-time firsthand experience with hardware this old. I have had the privilege of finding one of these guys in ewaste, though... sold it because it was way too valuable to keep around (and I already had tons of 775 stuff), but I had some good fun with it for a few days. Exact model I linked in the ebay listing. "Built" my first in 2019, bit off way more than I could chew with refurbishing an old workstation but honestly I'm glad I was plunged into that driver support hell since I learned quite a lot

By the time i was born wolfdale was only 7 months away and all of the e6000 c2ds have already been released aside from the terrible 1333 fsb models with no ocability which was 2 months after in july 2007

 

Oldest hardware ive got my hands on is just a p4 and celeron d cheddar mill cpus

 

 

Also the acer x58 i was shooting for has sold 😞

time to see how far this shuttle board goes

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By the time i was born wolfdale was only 7 months away and all of the e6000 c2ds have already been released aside from the terrible 1333 fsb models with no ocability which was 2 months after in july 2007

 

Oldest hardware ive got my hands on is just a p4 and celeron d cheddar mill cpus

 

 

Also the acer x58 i was shooting for has sold 😞

time to see how far this shuttle board goes

My oldest working is some 486 stuff but I'm going to sell it since I honestly have no clue what to do with DOS lol. after that, Athlon 64

What the horse considers play, the monkey considers business...

But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

Works Cited

      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

      Darbre PD. Metalloestrogens: an emerging class of inorganic xenoestrogens with potential to add to the oestrogenic burden of the human breast. J Appl Toxicol. 2006 May-Jun;26(3):191-7. doi: 10.1002/jat.1135. PMID: 16489580.

      Satarug S, Garrett SH, Sens MA, Sens DA. Cadmium, environmental exposure, and health outcomes. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Feb;118(2):182-90. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901234. PMID: 20123617; PMCID: PMC2831915.

      McElroy JA, Shafer MM, Trentham-Dietz A, Hampton JM, Newcomb PA. Cadmium exposure and breast cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Jun 21;98(12):869-73. doi: 10.1093/jnci/djj233. PMID: 16788160.

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My oldest working is some 486 stuff but I'm going to sell it since I honestly have no clue what to do with DOS lol. after that, Athlon 64

Yea havent bothered to go with hardware that old just yet since currently im just trying to make some money while also testing out some more computer hardware

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Also heres the review i read for the sx58h7. Theres really no reason to crossflash now aside from if voltages or adjustments are lacking since i can just dump the bios on a laptop with my programmer and modify the ebb by swapping it out for an r3be one which will pretty much max out oc capability

And yes this is indeed an ami bios so plenty of options for crossflash, but likely asus being the only viable one

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Yea havent bothered to go with hardware that old just yet since currently im just trying to make some money while also testing out some more computer hardware

90% of my retro hardware is from ewaste, so that's why I've got machines I typically wouldn't have a use for - I just kinda grab stuff that looks cool/rare. 

What the horse considers play, the monkey considers business...

But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

Works Cited

      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

      Darbre PD. Metalloestrogens: an emerging class of inorganic xenoestrogens with potential to add to the oestrogenic burden of the human breast. J Appl Toxicol. 2006 May-Jun;26(3):191-7. doi: 10.1002/jat.1135. PMID: 16489580.

      Satarug S, Garrett SH, Sens MA, Sens DA. Cadmium, environmental exposure, and health outcomes. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Feb;118(2):182-90. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901234. PMID: 20123617; PMCID: PMC2831915.

      McElroy JA, Shafer MM, Trentham-Dietz A, Hampton JM, Newcomb PA. Cadmium exposure and breast cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Jun 21;98(12):869-73. doi: 10.1093/jnci/djj233. PMID: 16788160.

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90% of my retro hardware is from ewaste, so that's why I've got machines I typically wouldn't have a use for - I just kinda grab stuff that looks cool/rare. 

Where do you even find this ewaste stuff anyways?

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9 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Where do you even find this ewaste stuff anyways?

My school. Sometimes departments will get new computers and IT won't collect the old ones, so they sit in closets for 10, 20 years. Then I come along, start peeking around, IT department says yes please take them because we need our closet space for newer ewaste.

As long as I run DBAN on the hard drives (or disassemble them), I'm allowed to keep all of it. It's pretty nice. (I do stuff for them like filming school events, mundane things like diagnosing dead PCs with power supply failure, installing SSDs and Windows, etc, in return I get hardware that I want and they have no use for.)

What the horse considers play, the monkey considers business...

But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

Works Cited

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      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

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11 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Where do you even find this ewaste stuff anyways?

I found this one store that sold A LOT of old GPUs, ewaste and (possibly)collectibles. Thing is the guy's ewaste is mostly gpus, so idk about other ewaste components. You can possibly buy an entire boxful for like 100k IDR.

 

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1 hour ago, Chikensoops said:

I found this one store that sold A LOT of old GPUs, ewaste and (possibly)collectibles. Thing is the guy's ewaste is mostly gpus, so idk about other ewaste components. You can possibly buy an entire boxful for like 100k IDR.

 

https://www.tokopedia.com/teknody

You might've came across this before, but if you haven't, then I hope it's useful!

Yep ive seen that guy before but prices seem abit absurd for dead hardware

 

1 hour ago, Mel0n. said:

My school. Sometimes departments will get new computers and IT won't collect the old ones, so they sit in closets for 10, 20 years. Then I come along, start peeking around, IT department says yes please take them because we need our closet space for newer ewaste.

As long as I run DBAN on the hard drives (or disassemble them), I'm allowed to keep all of it. It's pretty nice. (I do stuff for them like filming school events, mundane things like diagnosing dead PCs with power supply failure, installing SSDs and Windows, etc, in return I get hardware that I want and they have no use for.)

Hmm maybe i could try something similar, but any other sources of ewaste?

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