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aryanpall

hello i needed some help and advice

 

so i have a 1TB toshiab HDD whihc is slow so i bought a 2TB seagate barracuda and a 1TB crucial SSD (to speed up my process)

 

i only have 2 power cables and one i connected to my old toshiba and 1 to my segate, 

 

im currently thinking of cloning my toshiba to my segate and then taking out my toshiba and installing my ssd and then somehow having windows  on my SSD ?

 

my end result would be that all my files from my toshiba drive go to my segate drive and i have windows on my ssd to boot up faster 

 

how can i achieve this ?

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also i think i might have another power cable so should i just buy another SATA cable and having all 3 drives connected and then trying to do it from there

 

 

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How it should be for you:

 

Boot off SSD, data on HDD.

 

Goal:

 

Boot off SSD, everything else on SSD too.

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3 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

How it should be for you:

 

Boot off SSD, data on HDD.

 

Goal:

 

Boot off SSD, everything else on SSD too.

what i was thinking at first was just to get 1tb ssd to copy all my old HDD to my SDD but then my ssd would be full as my hdd is at 930GB capacity 

 

but now i bought an additioanl HDD so i can have my data on HDD and run windows on SDD as my main problem was 100% disk usage 

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18 minutes ago, aryanpall said:

what i was thinking at first was just to get 1tb ssd to copy all my old HDD to my SDD but then my ssd would be full as my hdd is at 930GB capacity 

 

but now i bought an additioanl HDD so i can have my data on HDD and run windows on SDD as my main problem was 100% disk usage 

Move your data to the new HDD, then fresh install Windows on the SSD.  Is the preferred method.

 

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49 minutes ago, aryanpall said:

also i think i might have another power cable so should i just buy another SATA cable and having all 3 drives connected and then trying to do it from there

 

 

this would probably be best. 

 

Fresh install of windows on the SSD, then plug in the other two drives with a SATA power splitter and run from there. To make cleanup easier, you should manually copy all the files you need from the old toshiba onto the new sagate hard drive, then format the toshiba drive to get rid of any old files.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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1 hour ago, Fasauceome said:

this would probably be best. 

 

Fresh install of windows on the SSD, then plug in the other two drives with a SATA power splitter and run from there. To make cleanup easier, you should manually copy all the files you need from the old toshiba onto the new sagate hard drive, then format the toshiba drive to get rid of any old files.

 

2 hours ago, Dedayog said:

Move your data to the new HDD, then fresh install Windows on the SSD.  Is the preferred method.

 

 

i only have 2 power cables to connect my drives 

okay guys i cloned my toshiba hdd to my segate drive, and should i now enter the bios and make my seagate drive the boot drive and then remove the toshiba drive and install windows on ssd, also i noticed my toshiba drive is the c drive and my segate now is a d drive, will this cause any problems or when i remove my toshiba will my segate drive become a c drive ?? 

 

thanks in advance im new to to this storage stuff !

 

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33 minutes ago, aryanpall said:

will my segate drive become a c drive ?? 

No, C drive by default is the one windows is installed on. But drive letter doesn't really matter while you're setting up

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27 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

No, C drive by default is the one windows is installed on. But drive letter doesn't really matter while you're setting up

okay so im 3/4 my way in 

 

i now have 2 drives working on my pc, one is my new 2 tb segate drive with all my previous data and files from my toshiba drive and now i have initialised my SSD

 

so im guessing now i do a fresh install on my ssd then go on my bios to make it my boot drive ?? right ?

 

my ssd is empty at the moment i dont want to clone all my hdd data and files as it will fill it up ?

 

 

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6 minutes ago, aryanpall said:

so im guessing now i do a fresh install on my ssd then go on my bios to make it my boot drive ?? right

You should unplug the Seagate while installing windows, the windows installer has a bad habit of putting the boot loader on the wrong drive sometimes. You shouldn't have to set the boot priority in BIOS, your motherboard will likely detect it for you.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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1 hour ago, aryanpall said:

 

 

i only have 2 power cables to connect my drives 

okay guys i cloned my toshiba hdd to my segate drive, and should i now enter the bios and make my seagate drive the boot drive and then remove the toshiba drive and install windows on ssd, also i noticed my toshiba drive is the c drive and my segate now is a d drive, will this cause any problems or when i remove my toshiba will my segate drive become a c drive ?? 

 

thanks in advance im new to to this storage stuff !

 

What PSU do you have?  You can buy more cables.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

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23 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

What PSU do you have?  You can buy more cables.

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50 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

You should unplug the Seagate while installing windows, the windows installer has a bad habit of putting the boot loader on the wrong drive sometimes. You shouldn't have to set the boot priority in BIOS, your motherboard will likely detect it for you.

okay now i have a probelm...

 

you guys told me to do a fresh installatiojn of windows on my new drive, but now i did and i have a fresh windows howecer i lost all my apps and data and shit like my background is there a way to only transfer this from my HDD that is my 2ndry storage or this is ???

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6 minutes ago, aryanpall said:

now i did and i have a fresh windows howecer i lost all my apps and data and shit

yes, when you install windows fresh you need to reinstall your apps and such. 

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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Just now, Fasauceome said:

yes, when you install windows fresh you need to reinstall your apps and such. 

but why wouild i need to re install my apps .. if i have cloned my old HDD????????

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10 minutes ago, aryanpall said:

but why wouild i need to re install my apps .. if i have cloned my old HDD????????

Your old HDD was cloned to move your data to the new HDD. Your files, photos, etc.

 

But if you try to launch existing apps from the hard drive what does it say? Sometimes they launch just fine.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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2 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Your old HDD was cloned to move your data to the new HDD. Your files, photos, etc.

 

But if you try to launch existing apps from the hard drive what does it say? Sometimes they launch just fine.

idk if i made it clear 

 

is there anways to keep the user folder from my hdd the one i kept for 3 years on my new ssd ?

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1 hour ago, aryanpall said:

idk if i made it clear 

 

is there anways to keep the user folder from my hdd the one i kept for 3 years on my new ssd ?

No, you can just clone the original boot drive to the SSD if you need to preserve all your data like that 

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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Why do you dicks keep telling people to install fresh versions of windows when cloning to an SSD has been a thing for like a decade? I've probably done this myself a thousand times; including countless server installs. 

 

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8 minutes ago, wseaton said:

Why do you dicks keep telling people to install fresh versions of windows when cloning to an SSD has been a thing for like a decade? I've probably done this myself a thousand times; including countless server installs. 

 

Us dicks recommend fresh installs to remove old software that might need cleaning up. There's not a huge fundamental problem with cloning a drive, hell I've done it plenty of times too.

 

It's only a recommendation for the best, not the only, way to proceed. OP can clone the drive if they want.

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