Games keep crashing while playing

[MGWT1981]

I just upgraded my rig:

Specs:

Asus z-690 E gaming mobo

12700k

32gb DDR5 Ram

RTX 3080

Windows 10

I updated Bios to previous to last version. 

 

 

I am not sure where to begin. I upgraded my system. My old system was 10700k with z-490 gmaing mobo. I had no issues with the old rig. But I am running into a problem with the new rig. Certain games just keep on crashing. God of War, Cyberpunk 2077, and Elden Ring thus far. Each one of them crashes to desktop. However, games like RDR2 and AC Odyssey run fine with no crashes. 

At first, I thought it might be XMP, so I disabled it. Same problem.

I disabled VPN. Same problem.

I checked device manager and its says all hardware is working correctly.

I thought it might be my NVME M.2 SSD. When installing in the new system, the gold pins in the front scrapped a little on the insert port. No scratches were detected and it seemed fine. I thought it might be that but RDR2 and ACO are on that and it works fine. All my movies and other files on that SSD also work fine.

Temps are great, in the 30s and 40s, so no issue there.

It is not DRM related because I got CP 2077 off GOG, which is DRM free.

 

I do have a lot of fans and RGB going. I have a 5000D fully decked out. 6 intake fans, 360 AIO, exhaust fan, and LED strip. Could the background processes controlling all of this be too much for the 12700k?

I also changed the SPD Write to False because Icue was not detecting RAM RGB. It does now, but it does affect RAM. Could that be it?

Could the slight scrap on the SSD cause it?

Could the DDR5, base clock at 4800mhz  be too much for the 12700k? I was under the impression that the CPU will control RAM speed depending on different factors. Is that incorrect? 

Could playing on Ultra settings cause this? If so, then why was my 10700k able to run on those settings?

The GPU is in a PCIE 5.0 slot, but I doubt that would cause anything.

I have googled answers for this, have tried various solutions, but problem still persists. 

The games that seem to crash are newer games. They were stable on my 10700k with 32gb of DDR4, but unstable on 12700k with 32gb of DDR5, which I do not understand why.

Should I update my BIOS to newest version. If so, will that screw up my mobo. I thought you are supposed to only update your BIOS once at the start of a new build and then leave it alone.

 

As can be read, I am having an issue with this big time. Any advice and/or comments is greatly appreciated. Especially of any kind that can help me reach a solution.

Thanks

[An0maly_76]

You should check your RAM's specific SKU / part # against the board's QVL list for your processor. Lots of folks say this isn't a thing, but it can be. And just an FYI, people are getting way too vague when mentioning their RAM. Simply giving speed and DDR4 / DDR5 just doesn't cut it anymore... If you have a potential RAM conflict issue, it helps us to help you, to know specific brand / series / SKU / part # / timings / voltage. In at least a handful of cases, RAM is not just simply RAM anymore. I found out the hard way after partially disassembling a new build twelve times in three months for a random blank screen on startup that turned out to be a POST failure on DRAM. Turns out the RAM I used wasn't on the QVL list for the board I initially used, nor the one I set it in for further troubleshooting. Both machines had issues until I replaced that RAM with RAM from their respective QVL lists. I'd say at the very least, you have a flaky DIMM, if not a kit that for some reason didn't pass the board manufacturer's tests.

Edited August 20, 2022 by An0maly_76
Revised, more info

[MGWT1981]

3 hours ago, An0maly_76 said:

You should check your RAM's specific SKU / part # against the board's QVL list for your processor. Lots of folks say this isn't a thing, but it can be. And just an FYI, people are getting way too vague when mentioning their RAM. Simply giving speed and DDR4 / DDR5 just doesn't cut it anymore... If you have a potential RAM conflict issue, it helps us to help you, to know specific brand / series / SKU / part # / timings / voltage. In at least a handful of cases, RAM is not just simply RAM anymore. I found out the hard way after partially disassembling a new build twelve times in three months for a random blank screen on startup that turned out to be a POST failure on DRAM. Turns out the RAM I used wasn't on the QVL list for the board I initially used, nor the one I set it in for further troubleshooting. Both machines had issues until I replaced that RAM with RAM from their respective QVL lists. I'd say at the very least, you have a flaky DIMM, if not a kit that for some reason didn't pass the board manufacturer's tests.

The ram is on the qvl

[johnt]

Give us some details on your power supply.

[MGWT1981]

20 minutes ago, johnt said:

Give us some details on your power supply.

1200 p +80 EVGA

 

I would doubt it's that though. 

 

[johnt]

4 minutes ago, MGWT1981 said:

1200 p +80 EVGA

 

I would doubt it's that though. 

 

You're probably right, but I didn't know what it was. I had issues with my 12700k build recently, but I accidentally lost a screw and couldn't find it. Turns out it was jammed stuck under a motherboard heatsink and it was causing a short during most games. It took me a while to find it thanks to a dark screw on a dark PCB surrounded by dark heatsinks lol This could also be happening to you if you left too many spacer nuts beneath the mother board. I'm not sure what else could be causing your troubles. Faulty GPU? Raytracing? 

[MGWT1981]

58 minutes ago, johnt said:

You're probably right, but I didn't know what it was. I had issues with my 12700k build recently, but I accidentally lost a screw and couldn't find it. Turns out it was jammed stuck under a motherboard heatsink and it was causing a short during most games. It took me a while to find it thanks to a dark screw on a dark PCB surrounded by dark heatsinks lol This could also be happening to you if you left too many spacer nuts beneath the mother board. I'm not sure what else could be causing your troubles. Faulty GPU? Raytracing? 

That stinks. I hope it did not cause too many more problems.

[MGWT1981]

Hey all. Thanks so much for trying to help me figure this out. I tried multiple solutions. I updated BIOS to most recent version, reinstalled both GPU and RAM. I also tried high performance mode. None of it worked.

I checked the crash logs and could not interpret it for the life of me!

 

Anyway, I finally came across an idea saying that the HD audio software for realtake might be causing a conflict and causing a crash. I slightly doubted it cause I had no issue with my previous mobo with realtake. But, hey, its a new mobo, so you never know. So I went to device manager and disabled the realtake audio device, and now everything works like a gem. Very smooth gameplay. Ran several benchmarks for the games and they all function correctly. CP 2077, GoW, and Elden Ring all now function fine.

I also turned XMP back on just to be sure and no problems occurred. I also directly turned on my logitech gaming speakers to see if it was a speaker issue across the whole system. But after five benchmarks, no issues.

 

So it was just the audio software on my device. Amazing how such a little software like that can cause a major crash in these games.

 

Hope this helps someone in the future if they run into the same problem. I do not know if it will, but this was my experience.

 

Again, thanks for the dialogue all.