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Emjack24
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Hey so I upgraded my pc with new power supply and graphics cards. Been fine for a couple days now I have zero graphical output. 

 

All fans spinning

 

GPU fans spinning and lit up

 

Tried both PCIE ports.

 

Disconnected all hard drives

 

Unplugged all periferals except display port/hdmi

 

Connected to motherboards Hdmi (although my cpu is AMD. No on board graphics I belive) 

 

No post codes on the mother board on start up

 

PC doesn't switch off with one quick click of the power button leading me to belive it is posting and loading. As when it doesn't post it turns off with one quick click. 

 

Tried every port on the gpu. 

 

Tried my old graphics card I know is working (still no joy) 

 

Really out of ideas at this point. 

 

Rog 850w gold PS

3070TI GPU

RYZEN 7 3700x

 

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"Ryzen something". Not to be snarky, but no one can really help you without complete, specific and correct information.

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5 minutes ago, Emjack24 said:

RYZEN something cpu. Honestly can't remember. 

This is important information we'll need as there are quite a few compatibility traps in the Ryzen line.

Main System (Byarlant): Ryzen 9 5950X | Asus B550-Creator ProArt | EK 240mm Basic AIO | 32GB G.Skill DDR4 3600MT/s CL16 | XFX Speedster SWFT 210 RX 6600 | Samsung 990 PRO 2TB / Samsung 990 EVO Plus 4TB | Corsair RM750X | StarTech 4× USB 3.0 Card | Realtek RTL8127 10G NIC | Hyte Y60 Case | Dell U3415W Monitor | Keychron K12 Blue (RGB backlight)

 

Laptop (Narrative): Lenovo Flex 5 81X20005US | Ryzen 5 4500U | 16GB DDR4 3200MT/s (soldered) | Vega II 384SP Graphics | SKHynix P31 1TB NVMe SSD | Intel AX200 Wifi | Asus 2.5G USB NIC | Asus ProArt PA278QV | Keychron K4 Brown (white backlight)

 

Proxmox Server (Veda): Ryzen 7 3800XT | ASRock Rack X470D4U | Corsair H80i v2 | 128GB Micron DDR4 ECC 3200MT/s | 2× Samsung PM963a 960GB SSD / 4× WD 10TB / 4× Seagate 14TB Exos / 4× Micron MX500 2TB / 8× WD 12TB (custom external SAS enclosure) | Seasonic Prime Fanless 500W | Intel X550-T2 10G NIC | LSI 9300-8i HBA | Adaptec 82885T SAS Expander | Fractal Design Node 804 Case

 

Proxmox Server (La Vie en Rose): GMKtec Mini PC | Ryzen 7 5700U | 32GB Lexar DDR4 (SODIMM) | Vega II 512SP Graphics | Lexar 1TB 610 Pro SSD | 2× Realtek 8125 2.5G NICs


Media Center/Video Capture (Jesta Cannon): Ryzen 5 1600X | ASRock B450M Pro4 R2.0 | Noctua NH-L12S | 16GB Crucial DDR4 3200MT/s | EVGA GTX750Ti SC | UMIS NVMe SSD 256GB / TEAMGROUP MS30 1TB | Corsair CX450M | Viewcast Osprey 260e Video Capture | TrendNet (AQC107) 10G NIC | LG WH14NS40 BD-ROM | Silverstone Sugo SG-11 Case | Sony XR65A80K

 

Workbench (Doven Wolf): Lenovo m715q | Ryzen Pro 3 2200GE | 16GB Crucial DDR4 3200MT/s (SODIMM) | Vega 8 Graphics | SKHynix (OEM) 256GB NVMe SSD | uni 2.5G USB NIC | HDMI add-in module

 

Network:

Spoiler 
                       ┌─────────────── Office/Rack ───────────────────────────────────────────────┐
Google Fiber Webpass ── Cloud Gateway Max ══╦═ Pro XG 8 ══╦═ Flex 2.5-8 ══╦═ Doven Wolf
                      La Vie en Rose (DNS) ═╬═ Narrative  ╠═ Veda-NAS     ╠═ La Vie en Rose (vmbr)
                                Veda (DNS) ─┘             ╠═ Veda (vmbr)  ├─ Ptolemy (vmbr)
╔═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╩═ Ptolemy-NAS  ├─ Veda (Mgmt)
║   ┌ Closet ┐      ┌───────── Bedroom ─────────┐                         └─ Veda (IPMI)
╚═══ Flex XG ══╦╤═══ Flex XG ══╤╦═ Byarlant
       (PoE)   ║│              │╠═ Narrative 
Kitchen Jack ══╣└─ Dual PoE ┐  │╚═ Jesta Cannon*
   (Testing)   ║┌─ Injector ┘  └── Work Laptop
     Bedroom ══╝│        ┌─────── Media Center ────────────────────────────┐
     Jack #2    └──────── Switch 8 ────────────┬─ nanoHD Access Point (PoE)
Notes:                                         ├─ Sony PlayStation 4 
─── is Gigabit / ═══ is Multi-Gigabit          ├─ Pioneer VSX-S520
* = cable passed from Bedroom to Media Center  └─ Sony XR65A80K (Google TV)
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2 minutes ago, AbydosOne said:

This is important information we'll need as there are quite a few compatibility traps in the Ryzen line.

Could be CPU to motherboard incompatibility by bios version for sure. If the PC won't post, could always pop the aio off and look at the top of it to find out what it is. Fresh thermal paste never hurts.

My PC Specs: (expand to view)

 

 

Main Gaming Machine

CPU:  Intel Core i7-14700K
CPU Cooler: Deepcool LT720
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400

Storage 1: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB

Storage 2: Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB
Video Card: EVGA XC3 ULTRA GAMING GeForce RTX 3080 10GB

Power Supply: Corsair RM850 850W
Case: Corsair 7000D Airflow
Case Fan 140mm: Noctua A14 PWM 82.5 CFM 140 mm (x7)
Monitor Main: MSI G274QPF-QD 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz
Monitor Vertical: Asus VA27EHE 27.0" 1920x1080 75 Hz

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6 minutes ago, TylerD321 said:

Could be CPU to motherboard incompatibility by bios version for sure. If the PC won't post, could always pop the aio off and look at the top of it to find out what it is. Fresh thermal paste never hurts.

 

9 minutes ago, AbydosOne said:

This is important information we'll need as there are quite a few compatibility traps in the Ryzen line.

 

10 minutes ago, An0maly_76 said:

"Ryzen something". Not to be snarky, but no one can really help you without complete, specific and correct information.

Also it's a MSI b450 tomahawk max mobo 

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I have prior experience with compatibility issues with an MSI mobo. Mine was also a B450, and refused to work with a GTX1650S I installed. Booted with the original GT1030, but the new GTX1650 gave a VGA light. Finally it shut down for good and required an RMA.

 

So, to review...

 

MSI B450M Tomahawk MAX mobo

Ryzen 3700X

3070ti, unknown

ROG 850W PSU (presumably Asus)

RAM unknown (specifics here would be good)

 

Some other specifics and specs would help here, RAM, RAM speed for instance.

 

As your 3700X does not have iGPU, the motherboard video port is useless here.

 

Not much to go on here, but with no video, I would check:

 

PCIe 6 or 6+2 power to the GPU

 

CPU 4 / 8 pin power to motherboard and other connections.

 

Make sure RAM is seated properly

 

BIOS version / update

 

The BIOS is likely because even though the B450 should support a 3700X out of the box, it isn't guaranteed. Even brand-new boards that say "5000 Ryzen ready" are sometimes requiring an update before a Zen3 will boot. Find out your BIOS version and see if you can find out whether it supports the 3700X or if you need an update. Mfr website should be helpful.

 

Though I think it's a little early to point the finger at the RAM yet, you should also look up the following to confirm any discrepancies:

 

Max supported RAM speed for motherboard.

Max supported RAM speed for CPU

Your RAM's max speed, default speed, and what it is OC'd to.

 

Also find out whether your RAM has been mfr tested on this board. I am in a situation where the board manufacturer has not certified my RAM kit, but the RAM manufacturer says it is compatible. Motherboard began acting stupid after a couple months, so who's right?

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I don't know if this is a be-all end-all, but this might be your problem...

No listings for 3070 or 3070ti in GPU support listings, even with a BIOS update. It seems MSI is rather known for this sort of thing, at least in my experience. It might not be a be-all-end-all, but the site shows no support beyond the RTX2xxx series. I'd say you'll probably have to swap the board for a B550 (a BETTER B550, I'm not a fan of MSI) or swap the 3070ti for an RTX2xxx series to work with the board. You can try updating the BIOS to the latest version to see if that works, but beyond that, I don't have another solution here.

 

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35 minutes ago, An0maly_76 said:

I don't know if this is a be-all end-all, but this might be your problem...

No listings for 3070 or 3070ti in GPU support listings, even with a BIOS update. It seems MSI is rather known for this sort of thing, at least in my experience. It might not be a be-all-end-all, but the site shows no support beyond the RTX2xxx series. I'd say you'll probably have to swap the board for a B550 (a BETTER B550, I'm not a fan of MSI) or swap the 3070ti for an RTX2xxx series to work with the board. You can try updating the BIOS to the latest version to see if that works, but beyond that, I don't have another solution here.

 

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I took a look at the website and can confirm that I see the same thing. Looks like the best/most recent gpu that is officially supported by this motherboard is the 2080 super.

 

Here is the link for reference.

B450 TOMAHAWK MAX | Motherboard | MSI Global

My PC Specs: (expand to view)

 

 

Main Gaming Machine

CPU:  Intel Core i7-14700K
CPU Cooler: Deepcool LT720
Motherboard: MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400

Storage 1: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB

Storage 2: Crucial P3 Plus 4 TB
Video Card: EVGA XC3 ULTRA GAMING GeForce RTX 3080 10GB

Power Supply: Corsair RM850 850W
Case: Corsair 7000D Airflow
Case Fan 140mm: Noctua A14 PWM 82.5 CFM 140 mm (x7)
Monitor Main: MSI G274QPF-QD 27.0" 2560 x 1440 170 Hz
Monitor Vertical: Asus VA27EHE 27.0" 1920x1080 75 Hz

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BTW, OP, I am running a Ryzen 3600X and RTX3060ti on an ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 without issue. That doesn't necessarily mean it supports the 3070ti, but stands to reason it will support most any RTX3xxx series. It would certainly appear MSI is playing games to make you buy one of their more expensive boards if you want to run a better GPU.

 

https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B450M-HDV R4.0/index.asp

 

I think I paid around $75 on Amazon a week or two ago.

I don't badmouth others' input, I'd appreciate others not badmouthing mine. *** More below ***

 

MODERATE TO SEVERE AUTISTIC, COMPLICATED WITH COVID FOG

 

Due to the above, I've likely revised posts <30 min old, and do not think as you do.

THINK BEFORE YOU REPLY!

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