Solve a bottleneck?

[Bowzaa]

Heyo, I just recently got the Sapphire R9 280x Toxic, and from what I already know (or, have been told), my A10-6800k bottlenecks it. I plan to change it out in the future, but is there any way to temporarily reduce or solve this bottleneck?

 

CPU: AMD A10-6800k @ 4.4GHz

GPU: Sapphire R9 280x Toxic 1200MHz Core/1675MHz Mem
MOBO: MSI FM2-A85XA-G65

[Shd0w2]

4.4GHZ is a heft overclock, I don't think you will actually have a bottleneck

[Faa]

When your gpu (no vsync) sits always at 99% the only way improving your frames would be overclocking or adding a 2nd or just a new GPU. Anything below 99% is just a cpu limitation eg like 80%. If you're getting like average 90% the extra 9% isnt worth it. Improving this would only be achieved with a cpu clock or a better cpu.

[WoodenMarker]

Not really--your cpu is already oc'ed. As long as your current performance is satisfactory, I don't see the need to upgrade.

[Bowzaa]

Not really--your cpu is already oc'ed. As long as your current performance is satisfactory, I don't see the need to upgrade.

Ahh but this GPU didn't increase performance much either-- I'd really kinda expect the 280x to give me at least 5-10 more FPS on a game, but I haven't even gotten a 10% performance increase. Is it possible I'm doing something wrong and shouldn't have GPU/APU overclocked?

[Fred Castellum]

Ahh but this GPU didn't increase performance much either-- I'd really kinda expect the 280x to give me at least 5-10 more FPS on a game, but I haven't even gotten a 10% performance increase. Is it possible I'm doing something wrong and shouldn't have GPU/APU overclocked?

It really depends on the game in question here, some games are more optimized for nvidia or AMD GPUs and may be card specific at times too. 

 

What card did you have before? Maybe the card you had before was already pretty powerful so the performance improvements you see aren't very noticeable. 

 

And your avatar image.... my eyes.... good god... 

[WoodenMarker]

Ahh but this GPU didn't increase performance much either-- I'd really kinda expect the 280x to give me at least 5-10 more FPS on a game, but I haven't even gotten a 10% performance increase. Is it possible I'm doing something wrong and shouldn't have GPU/APU overclocked?

You should have them oc'ed. What did you upgrade from?

What game are you playing?

[Bowzaa]

It really depends on the game in question here, some games are more optimized for nvidia or AMD GPUs and may be card specific at times too. 

 

What card did you have before? Maybe the card you had before was already pretty powerful so the performance improvements you see aren't very noticeable. 

 

And your avatar image.... my eyes.... good god... 

 

 

You should have them oc'ed. What did you upgrade from?

What game are you playing?

First off, sorry about the avatar! I clicked the wrong gif image at first haha

 

Previous card was an MSI Radeon HD 6570 1GB that ran at about 662MHz. The games I play are as follows:

 

League of Legends, Borderlands 1/2, Osu!, TF2, DotA 2, Garry's Mod, Fallout 3/New Vegas, Path of Exile, Starbound, Terraria, Crysis 2.

While I did notice slight increases in Crysis 2 and server stability of Starbound/Terraria (I host the server on my PC), there was little to no performance difference in the other games, or at least, not noticeable. League of Legends actually had a performance decrease, from ~115 to ~90-105, but it's more stable.

[_ASSASSIN_]

you only need to upgrade when the games you play demand a CPU that has more IPC.

[Bowzaa]

you only need to upgrade when the games you play demand a CPU that has more IPC.

So as it is now, it's just a matter of instead of mid/high performance increases, everything is more stable? I've noticed I have a lot less FPS drops when I run games on High, plus I never tried max (am just doing it on BL2) which I couldn't do before. I guess I just never paid good enough attention. Maybe I should benchmark it?

[needmorewood]

Ahh but this GPU didn't increase performance much either-- I'd really kinda expect the 280x to give me at least 5-10 more FPS on a game, but I haven't even gotten a 10% performance increase. Is it possible I'm doing something wrong and shouldn't have GPU/APU overclocked?

are u saying that from the APU to the r9 280x is only a 10% increase?

[Bowzaa]

are u saying that from the APU to the r9 280x is only a 10% increase?

From MSI Radeon HD 6570 1GB to R9 280X is only about 10%, but as stated previously, I never tried to run more demanding settings (Except for League which I've always had maxed), which I'm currently doing. While lower settings don't have much of an increase, I can comfortably run more demanding settings with no problem.

[Wow Such Doge]

I have a GTX760 and a AMDA10 APU at 3.7GHZ and i get a huge bottleneck in most games...

Itll even get down to 40% GPU usage...

[D3MON]

First off, sorry about the avatar! I clicked the wrong gif image at first haha

 

Previous card was an MSI Radeon HD 6570 1GB that ran at about 662MHz. The games I play are as follows:

 

League of Legends, Borderlands 1/2, Osu!, TF2, DotA 2, Garry's Mod, Fallout 3/New Vegas, Path of Exile, Starbound, Terraria, Crysis 2.

While I did notice slight increases in Crysis 2 and server stability of Starbound/Terraria (I host the server on my PC), there was little to no performance difference in the other games, or at least, not noticeable. League of Legends actually had a performance decrease, from ~115 to ~90-105, but it's more stable.

with the exception of crysis 2 those games are either badly made and run like **** no matter what config you have or are really badly threaded in which case you might aswell have an ivybridge dual core or 5ghz e8500....

a better cpu/gpu wont fix a badly coded game.

http://www.techspot.com/review/734-battlefield-4-benchmarks/page6.html

in decent games it doesnt bottleneck a 290x

http://www.techspot.com/review/787-thief-benchmarks/page4.html

in badly made games you'll be bottlenecked pretty much whatever you do, you will get more performance with an OC but thats for another thread and has been done.

[yes thief is badly made game, a 3220 outpacing a phenom x6/fx8350, GTFO]

[Bowzaa]

with the exception of crysis 2 those games are either badly made and run like **** no matter what config you have or are really badly threaded in which case you might aswell have an ivybridge dual core or 5ghz e8500....

a better cpu/gpu wont fix a badly coded game.

http://www.techspot.com/review/734-battlefield-4-benchmarks/page6.html

in decent games it doesnt bottleneck a 290x

http://www.techspot.com/review/787-thief-benchmarks/page4.html

in badly made games you'll be bottlenecked pretty much whatever you do, you will get more performance with an OC but thats for another thread and has been done.

[yes thief is badly made game, a 3220 outpacing a phenom x6/fx8350, GTFO]

Ah fair enough. Well I'm not disappointed with it at all, plus it looks amazing through my case window. I was just curious if it was supposed to give better performance in a some games or not, and after trying to run at higher settings (which I feel dumb for not doing before coming here), I've noticed they run in comparison to my previous card which couldn't run them.