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Not sure why one would choose a B-series chipset over Z690 with an i9. Kind of a weird choice.

 

Feels like a lot of corners are being cut here for no apparent reason.

Personally, I'd feel a little more persuaded with something like this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZcvZ9r

 

"Best that money can buy" implies "top of the line everything" essentially, so why run around with DDR4 when DDR5 exists and is available? Moreover, what argument is there against a better CPU cooler, a beefier power supply? Why even bother with having hard drives at all when you could go full SSD?

 

If money truly isn't an issue, then there isn't really an excuse for not choosing some better parts.

Budget (including currency): I'm very flexible on price, 5-10k $US

Country: US

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Lots of AAA games, GTA 5, Ready or Not, Cyberpunk 2077, R6, and general computer use. 

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I'm upgrading from this build:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XTjQGL

I would like to build the absolute best gaming pc that money can buy, monitor resolution and refresh rate doesn't matter because I'm going to be upgrading to fit the PC not upgrading to fit the monitor specs (Although I would like monitor recommendations as well, thanks). I've asked around on other places as well and I got a parts list from someone there as well, let me know if its any good:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZWxm3y

TLDR: Looking for the best possible gaming pc currently, money basically doesn't matter.

Thanks to anyone who helps 🙂

Edit: Not sure which comment to mark as solved because I took inspiration and suggestions from so many people, thank you everyone who helped.

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Not sure why one would choose a B-series chipset over Z690 with an i9. Kind of a weird choice.

 

Feels like a lot of corners are being cut here for no apparent reason.

Personally, I'd feel a little more persuaded with something like this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZcvZ9r

 

"Best that money can buy" implies "top of the line everything" essentially, so why run around with DDR4 when DDR5 exists and is available? Moreover, what argument is there against a better CPU cooler, a beefier power supply? Why even bother with having hard drives at all when you could go full SSD?

 

If money truly isn't an issue, then there isn't really an excuse for not choosing some better parts.

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15 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

If money truly isn't an issue, then there isn't really an excuse for not choosing some better parts.

Follow up costs due to power sipping from the wall?

 

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Anghammarad : Asrock Taichi x570, AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @4900 MHz. 32 GB DDR4 3600, some NVME SSDs, Gainward Phoenix RTX 3070TI

 

System 2 "Igluna" AsRock Fatal1ty Z77 Pro, Core I5 3570k @4300, 16 GB Ram DDR3 2133, some SSD, and a 2 TB HDD each, Gainward Phantom 760GTX.

System 3 "Inskah" AsRock Fatal1ty Z77 Pro, Core I5 3570k @4300, 16 GB Ram DDR3 2133, some SSD, and a 2 TB HDD each, Gainward Phantom 760GTX.

 

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Media System "Vio": Aorus Elite AX V2, Ryzen 7 5700X, 64 GB Ram DDR4 3200 Mushkin, 1 275 GB Crucial MX SSD, 1 tb Crucial MX500 SSD. IBM 5015 Megaraid, 4 Seagate Ironwolf 4TB HDD in raid 5, 4 WD RED 4 tb in another Raid 5, Gainward Phoenix GTX 1060

 

(Abit Fatal1ty FP9 IN SLI, C2Duo E8400, 6 GB Ram DDR2 800, far too less diskspace, Gainward Phantom 560 GTX broken need fixing)

 

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16 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Agreed with the sentiment kind of, but there are some things that confuse me in this list.

I would bet you almost 1000% that that ram would not run at its rated speeds since you put a locked cpu.

There's also not really a point in  getting a wifi adaptor when the mobo already has wifi onboard

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Just now, Anghammarad said:

Follow up costs due to power sipping from the wall?

Valid concern.

 

PCPartPicker estimates the list I pulled together will take 22W less than the one OP was originally supplied, but my thinking is that anybody buying an i9 with the most modern GPU is going to be able to afford to run it for more than 20 minutes every month.

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Just now, Ryuikko said:

Agreed with the sentiment kind of, but there are some things that confuse me in this list.

I would bet you almost 1000% that that ram would not run at its rated speeds since you put a locked cpu.

There's also not really a point in  getting a wifi adaptor when the mobo already has wifi onboard

That's a good point, I did overlook that. Need to brush up on the modern tech...

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43 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Not sure why one would choose a B-series chipset over Z690 with an i9. Kind of a weird choice.

 

Feels like a lot of corners are being cut here for no apparent reason.

Personally, I'd feel a little more persuaded with something like this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZcvZ9r

 

"Best that money can buy" implies "top of the line everything" essentially, so why run around with DDR4 when DDR5 exists and is available? Moreover, what argument is there against a better CPU cooler, a beefier power supply? Why even bother with having hard drives at all when you could go full SSD?

 

If money truly isn't an issue, then there isn't really an excuse for not choosing some better parts.

Thanks for the list! 

 

57 minutes ago, Ryuikko said:

I would bet you almost 1000% that that ram would not run at its rated speeds since you put a locked cpu.

 

Is there a better set of ram that you would recommend instead?

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I was talking with a friend and was wondering if using a threadripper would boost the performance more than the current intel i9 as well as switching to a 3090 because the performance wouldn't be much different between the 6900 XT and the 3090 but the 3090 has much better ray tracing capabilities. Like I said these are just questions because I don't know enough to decide for myself. 🙂 thanks to anyone who helps

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1 hour ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Personally, I'd feel a little more persuaded with something like this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZcvZ9r

 

Another thing, could the case change to something else? I'm looking at it and it seems too big considering how it has space to fit 2 computers inside it.

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1 hour ago, diamondminer9908 said:

I've asked around on other places as well and I got a parts list from someone there as well, let me know if its any good:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZWxm3y

Damn thats one solid parts list, looks like something i would build, i see whoever you consulted was a man of culture

 

not the best of the best but that literally doesnt matter when going from best value i7 12700f + 3080 + 32gb ram at ~1.8k to a 12900k + 3090 + 32gb ddr5 7200+ oc at 3k+ makes basically no difference whatsoever, the i7 is already 80% and its good enough for anything but the i9 with overkill gpu is just chasing that extra 20% which is not worth it and a massive waste of money

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7HyxRv heres my take of that list

 

 

If you really wanna emphasise on the best gaming pc that you can buy while wasting a crap ton of money for no reason and gaining at most 5% extra performance then

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/33x92m

 

Did cut cost on crap that wouldnt make a diff like the 12900ks or 6600 vs 6400 (youll be able to do 7000+ on both anyways), the case is beefy asf but thats if you wanna have a go at custom looping, if you wanna custom loop avoid overpriced stuff like ek and use chinese equivalents bykski copper 480 60mm rad (90$ aliexpress) as reference for what you should be paying cause branding does not count as it doesnt make a performance diff

 

You can also ditch custom loops entirely and go for a phase change loop, basically something thatll be able to run your cpu at subzero (youll need a powerful one for a 12900k), though good luck finding builders for these. Theres also (god forbid) cascade phase change, usually for benching due to the high cost and power consumption but a 3 stage cascade or whatever its called (3 phase loops connected to each other, getting colder and colder per stage) you can theoretically do sub 100c daily but the high cost, power draw, and having to build the thing yourself cause i doubt there are many oc nuts willing to build one of these is prob not a viable option at all

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Don't think anyone really suggested the absolute best system, at an outrageous price, yet I only used "serious" parts (ie no useless stuff)  , which would be like this :

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LPZ2W4

 

CPU: Intel Core i9-12900KS 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($734.99 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken Z73 RGB 52.44 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($304.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MEG Z690 GODLIKE EATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($1199.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($619.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4 Plus 8 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($1499.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti 24 GB FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID GAMING Video Card  ($1517.99 @ EVGA) 
Case: Corsair iCUE 5000T RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($354.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair AX1600i 1600 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($609.99 @ Corsair) 
Monitor: Samsung Odyssey G9 Neo S49AG952N 49.0" 5120x1440 240 Hz Monitor  ($1799.99 @ Abt) 
Total: $8642.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-22 03:41 EDT-0400

 

AMD R9  7950X3D CPU/ Asus ROG STRIX X670E-E board/ 2x32GB G-Skill Trident Z Neo 6000CL30 RAM ASUS TUF Gaming AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX OC Edition GPU/ Phanteks P600S case /  Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360 ARGB cooler/  2TB WD SN850 NVme + 2TB Crucial T500  NVme  + 4TB Toshiba X300 HDD / Corsair RM850x PSU/ Alienware AW3420DW 34" 120Hz 3440x1440p monitor / ASUS ROG AZOTH keyboard/ Logitech G PRO X Superlight mouse / Audeze Maxwell headphones

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2 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Valid concern.

 

PCPartPicker estimates the list I pulled together will take 22W less than the one OP was originally supplied, but my thinking is that anybody buying an i9 with the most modern GPU is going to be able to afford to run it for more than 20 minutes every month.

Sure... 

 

In my simple Brain the power usage is a part in speccing a new machine, due to part of the highest energy costs worldwide here in germany... 

 

Only now on the current system I'm a little worried now... 5800x, 32gb, 3 m.2s, and the 3070ti now... need to run a calculator... but I bet more than the 1060 that was in there before...

Main System:

Anghammarad : Asrock Taichi x570, AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @4900 MHz. 32 GB DDR4 3600, some NVME SSDs, Gainward Phoenix RTX 3070TI

 

System 2 "Igluna" AsRock Fatal1ty Z77 Pro, Core I5 3570k @4300, 16 GB Ram DDR3 2133, some SSD, and a 2 TB HDD each, Gainward Phantom 760GTX.

System 3 "Inskah" AsRock Fatal1ty Z77 Pro, Core I5 3570k @4300, 16 GB Ram DDR3 2133, some SSD, and a 2 TB HDD each, Gainward Phantom 760GTX.

 

On the Road: Acer Aspire 5 Model A515-51G-54FD, Intel Core i5 7200U, 8 GB DDR4 Ram, 120 GB SSD, 1 TB SSD, Intel CPU GFX and Nvidia MX 150, Full HD IPS display

 

Media System "Vio": Aorus Elite AX V2, Ryzen 7 5700X, 64 GB Ram DDR4 3200 Mushkin, 1 275 GB Crucial MX SSD, 1 tb Crucial MX500 SSD. IBM 5015 Megaraid, 4 Seagate Ironwolf 4TB HDD in raid 5, 4 WD RED 4 tb in another Raid 5, Gainward Phoenix GTX 1060

 

(Abit Fatal1ty FP9 IN SLI, C2Duo E8400, 6 GB Ram DDR2 800, far too less diskspace, Gainward Phantom 560 GTX broken need fixing)

 

Nostalgia: Amiga 1200, Tower Build, CPU/FPU/MMU 68EC020, 68030, 68882 @50 Mhz, 10 MByte ram (2 MB Chip, 8 MB Fast), Fast SCSI II, 2 CDRoms, 2 1 GB SCSI II IBM Harddrives, 512 MB Quantum Lightning HDD, self soldered Sync changer to attach VGA displays, WLAN

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1 hour ago, diamondminer9908 said:

Another thing, could the case change to something else? I'm looking at it and it seems too big considering how it has space to fit 2 computers inside it.

I realize that I would like to keep the case because it gives more room for watercooling.

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I've made a few changes-to the cpu and gpu. could someone tell me if this would still work well because I see a few compatibility issues on pcpartpicker and am not sure.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6swqPX

 

also i'm very interested in getting a full watercooling loop in the computer as well, could anyone help me get the proper parts for what i would need? much appreciated

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6 hours ago, diamondminer9908 said:

Another thing, could the case change to something else? I'm looking at it and it seems too big considering how it has space to fit 2 computers inside it.

Yeah, I just picked something big. Choose whatever you like that'll fit the components in it.

 

5 hours ago, diamondminer9908 said:

I've made a few changes-to the cpu and gpu. could someone tell me if this would still work well because I see a few compatibility issues on pcpartpicker and am not sure.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6swqPX

 

also i'm very interested in getting a full watercooling loop in the computer as well, could anyone help me get the proper parts for what i would need? much appreciated

The main issue here is mostly CPU support. The motherboard may require a BIOS update before it'll run with that CPU. Not a super major concern, usually if the board was shipped from the factory past the release date of that BIOS version, you're in the clear.

 

Some motherboards are also able to update the BIOS without a CPU or RAM installed.

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So many joke choices here I don't even know where to begin. But I'll tell you that an Aus retailer reduced the price of the AW3432 significantly down there recently. So if you're actually going down that route, at least make one choice right and get that OLED monitor.

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5 hours ago, diamondminer9908 said:

I've made a few changes-to the cpu and gpu. could someone tell me if this would still work well because I see a few compatibility issues on pcpartpicker and am not sure.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6swqPX

 

also i'm very interested in getting a full watercooling loop in the computer as well, could anyone help me get the proper parts for what i would need? much appreciated

 

The build is fine, but I do have some tweaks to suggest.

 

A more capable AIO. An excellent motherboard that supports all front panel ports without adapters. All NVMe storage.

 

As with most high-end motherboards, the Z690 Unify-X supports BIOS flash without CPU. Eliminates worry about BIOS levels.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-12900KS 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($734.99 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MEG Z690 UNIFY-X ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($459.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6200 CL36 Memory  ($329.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($249.99 @ Adorama) 
Storage: Western Digital Red 4 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($499.99 @ Western Digital) 
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB STRIX GAMING OC Video Card  ($1299.00 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair 1000D ATX Full Tower Case  ($479.99 @ Corsair) 
Power Supply: Corsair HX1200 Platinum 1200 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($214.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $4418.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-07-22 10:33 EDT-0400

80+ ratings certify electrical efficiency. Not quality.

 

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8 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Valid concern.

 

PCPartPicker estimates the list I pulled together will take 22W less than the one OP was originally supplied, but my thinking is that anybody buying an i9 with the most modern GPU is going to be able to afford to run it for more than 20 minutes every month.

Interesting how you didn't seem to connect his partpicker link and the post to being a fantasy build.

 

He says $5-10k but links a $2k oddly slapped together build?  

 

Bullshit detectors not charged today?

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

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7800X3D - PBO +200, CO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, Cinebench 23: 18401 multi, 1779 single

 

Khaleesi: Ryzen 5 5600X3D (+200, -30) - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200CL16 - Asus Prime 9060XT 16GB - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - Cudy AX3000 PCIe Wifi 6 - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Frozen Notte RGB 360 White V2 - NZXT H6 Flow RGB White - LG 34" 3440x1440

 

NAS/Plex/Game Server  Ryzen 9 5900XT 16c/32t - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - TeamGroup T-Force Vulcan 64GB 3200CL16 - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + TeamGroup MP44L 2TB (Game) + WD Red Plus 4TBx2 (Plex) - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE - ASUS Prime AP201 - Currently Hosting: Enshrouded x2, Hytale, Icarus, Windrose. Project Zomboid, Dune Awakening.

 

Sage: Ryzen 7 7800X3D (+200, -30) - Gigabyte B650 Gaming X V2 - ASRock Steel Legend 7900GRE - G. Skill Flare X5 32GB 6000CL32 - TeamGroup MP44L 2TB - Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000w - NZXT H5 Elite

 

Emma: i9 9900K @5.2Ghz - Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Gaming 5 - MSI 6900XT Gaming X Trio - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - Super Flower Combat FG 850w - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360 - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

GF Rig: Steam Deck 512GB OLED, Vizio 43" 4K TV

 

Extra parts: ASUS 6650XT - Gigabyte 1080Ti - Cooler Master Q300L - Gigabyte 450w PSU - Super Flower Leadex V Plat Pro 850w

 

OnePlus Ecosystem: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green. OnePlus Watch 2 - Radiant Steel, OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

3D Printing: 

Bambu Lab X1 Carbon, AMS, AMS2 Pro (thank you MicroCenter!)

Other Interesting Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 PHEV Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

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42 minutes ago, diamondminer9908 said:

Like I said in my original post the $2k build was made by another person for me in a discord server. Its not a fantasy build

Cool, can't wait to see it in the Battlestation or Build Log sections when you build it! Should be an amazing machine!

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx: Ryzen 7 7800X3D / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / ASRock Taichi 7900xtx OC / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 64GB (4x16GB) / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Plat Pro 1000 / EK-AIO 360 Basic w/ Silent Wings fans / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / LG - UltraGear 45" OLED QHD 240Hz / Mackie CR5BT / SteelSeries Arctis Nova Pro / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502 - https://valid.x86.fr/my9nnr

 

7800X3D - PBO +200, CO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, Cinebench 23: 18401 multi, 1779 single

 

Khaleesi: Ryzen 5 5600X3D (+200, -30) - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200CL16 - Asus Prime 9060XT 16GB - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - Cudy AX3000 PCIe Wifi 6 - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Frozen Notte RGB 360 White V2 - NZXT H6 Flow RGB White - LG 34" 3440x1440

 

NAS/Plex/Game Server  Ryzen 9 5900XT 16c/32t - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - TeamGroup T-Force Vulcan 64GB 3200CL16 - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + TeamGroup MP44L 2TB (Game) + WD Red Plus 4TBx2 (Plex) - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE - ASUS Prime AP201 - Currently Hosting: Enshrouded x2, Hytale, Icarus, Windrose. Project Zomboid, Dune Awakening.

 

Sage: Ryzen 7 7800X3D (+200, -30) - Gigabyte B650 Gaming X V2 - ASRock Steel Legend 7900GRE - G. Skill Flare X5 32GB 6000CL32 - TeamGroup MP44L 2TB - Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000w - NZXT H5 Elite

 

Emma: i9 9900K @5.2Ghz - Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Gaming 5 - MSI 6900XT Gaming X Trio - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - Super Flower Combat FG 850w - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360 - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

GF Rig: Steam Deck 512GB OLED, Vizio 43" 4K TV

 

Extra parts: ASUS 6650XT - Gigabyte 1080Ti - Cooler Master Q300L - Gigabyte 450w PSU - Super Flower Leadex V Plat Pro 850w

 

OnePlus Ecosystem: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green. OnePlus Watch 2 - Radiant Steel, OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

3D Printing: 

Bambu Lab X1 Carbon, AMS, AMS2 Pro (thank you MicroCenter!)

Other Interesting Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 PHEV Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

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2 hours ago, diamondminer9908 said:

Like I said in my original post the $2k build was made by another person for me in a discord server. Its not a fantasy build


...and somehow the absolute best build possible gets an 80 buck RAM kit? Come on, I think you need to word it better.

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