RGB high CFM?

[Avalon1226]

I just recently built a pc with a i7-12700k with a msi z690 motherboard. I have a msi mag coreliquid 240OR v2 aio hooked to it.  When i set the boost ratio higher than +2 to get close to 5.0ghz and run cinebench, it thermal throttles instantly and when its done with the benchmark cpu temp goes back down to 45-50c. For case fans i use the corsair sp120 rgb elite. I love the look of them but i want more airflow to try to do the +3 boost to get to 5ghz.  My question is does anyone make say high CFM RGB or high static pressure RGB fans,  or do i have to go non rgb nactua or delta. Or do i have a different problem altogether,  i.e too much or not enough thermal paste.  I do have the fans on the radiator blowing air outwards  And in the front of the case the 3 fans are blowing in, And the one in the back also blows out, which i hear was better for keeping the gpu cooler which is a rtx 3080. Case is the corsair 4000d airflow. Any help or suggestions appreciated.

[MingLee420]

1 hour ago, Avalon1226 said:

I just recently built a pc with a i7-12700k with a msi z690 motherboard. I have a msi mag coreliquid 240OR v2 aio hooked to it.  When i set the boost ratio higher than +2 to get close to 5.0ghz and run cinebench, it thermal throttles instantly and when its done with the benchmark cpu temp goes back down to 45-50c. For case fans i use the corsair sp120 rgb elite. I love the look of them but i want more airflow to try to do the +3 boost to get to 5ghz.  My question is does anyone make say high CFM RGB or high static pressure RGB fans,  or do i have to go non rgb nactua or delta. Or do i have a different problem altogether,  i.e too much or not enough thermal paste.  I do have the fans on the radiator blowing air outwards  And in the front of the case the 3 fans are blowing in, And the one in the back also blows out, which i hear was better for keeping the gpu cooler which is a rtx 3080. Case is the corsair 4000d airflow. Any help or suggestions appreciated.

the main issue is that you might have the cpu core voltage on auto which is making it thermal throttling, I recommend searching up a oc tutorial on yt

[NorKris]

issue detected: msi mag coreliquid 240OR v2 aio

[Avalon1226]

5 hours ago, NorKris said:

issue detected: msi mag coreliquid 240OR v2 aio

Is that a bad cooler, what would you recommend?

 

[Avalon1226]

6 hours ago, MingLee420 said:

the main issue is that you might have the cpu core voltage on auto which is making it thermal throttling, I recommend searching up a oc tutorial on yt

I did find one, but that one told me to set it to adaptive mode and the cpu voltage to 1.425v

[NorKris]

13 minutes ago, Avalon1226 said:

Is that a bad cooler, what would you recommend?

 

Its an Insanely bad cooler. Cm P240P or ML240r or EK aio 240 or arctic freezer 2 

[Avalon1226]

On 7/10/2022 at 12:33 PM, NorKris said:

Its an Insanely bad cooler. Cm P240P or ML240r or EK aio 240 or arctic freezer 2 

i was thinking of going with the artic freezer, or would any or the other options be better. i am going to put on the noctua NF-F12 to the rad

[NorKris]

3 hours ago, Avalon1226 said:

i was thinking of going with the artic freezer, or would any or the other options be better. i am going to put on the noctua NF-F12 to the rad

arctic is the king, looks meh
EK AIO, almost king, looks good

[Avalon1226]

On 7/20/2022 at 4:36 AM, NorKris said:

arctic is the king, looks meh
EK AIO, almost king, looks good

I went with the arctic going to use the noctua nf-f12 fans with phanteks rgb attached to the fans, but hopefully the back plate for the msi won't be too hard to remove since it's double sided taped on the motherboard.

[Ralfi]

37 minutes ago, Avalon1226 said:

I went with the arctic going to use the noctua nf-f12 fans with phanteks rgb attached to the fans, but hopefully the back plate for the msi won't be too hard to remove since it's double sided taped on the motherboard.

There are Arctic AIOs that come with ARGB fans. Did you consider those? Prevents the need for those gimmicky RGB attachments.

 

 

[Avalon1226]

On 7/24/2022 at 4:47 AM, Ralfi said:

There are Arctic AIOs that come with ARGB fans. Did you consider those? Prevents the need for those gimmicky RGB attachments.

 

 

i did, but i already had the fans and the rgb attachment

[Avalon1226]

On 7/20/2022 at 4:36 AM, NorKris said:

arctic is the king, looks meh
EK AIO, almost king, looks good

So did I do something wrong? When at idle the temperatures are a little bit cooler at 24c-32c with the artic freeze vs 28c-35c with the msi, but when running a stress test like cinebench the temps do go to 100c and starts to thermal throttle with the artic freeze and when it was the msi it was 85c and no thermal throttling, same core speed and everything.

[Ralfi]

4 minutes ago, Avalon1226 said:

i did, but i already had the fans and the rgb attachment

Curious to know how it goes - Arctic AIO with Noctua fans sounds like a formidable combo.

 

If you wanted to, you could compare the fans it comes with to the Noctua's. Interesting to see how the Arctic v Noctua battle goes...If you can be bothered with the experiment...I understand if you don't...i'm just curious

[Avalon1226]

1 hour ago, Ralfi said:

Curious to know how it goes - Arctic AIO with Noctua fans sounds like a formidable combo.

 

If you wanted to, you could compare the fans it comes with to the Noctua's. Interesting to see how the Arctic v Noctua battle goes...If you can be bothered with the experiment...I understand if you don't...i'm just curious

I wish I test them but the headers for the pump and the fan were so hard to get to I'm afraid to mess with it again lol. I might mess with the fans changing them to intake vs exhaust to see the temperature differences. One thing I have noticed so far is my idle temps are lower than the MSI mag cool AIO was but the artic cooler seems to get hotter faster when running stress tests. I don't know if I did something wrong with the install, or I know they had a cover issue on some MSI boards like the MSI MPG z690 carbon where the cover of the AIO would get in the way and my motherboard is MSI - MPG Z690 EDGE, so I did just email their support to see if this was a issue and why I was getting thermal throttling with this AIO vs my crappy one no thermal throttling.

[Ralfi]

2 hours ago, Avalon1226 said:

So did I do something wrong? When at idle the temperatures are a little bit cooler at 24c-32c with the artic freeze vs 28c-35c with the msi, but when running a stress test like cinebench the temps do go to 100c and starts to thermal throttle with the artic freeze and when it was the msi it was 85c and no thermal throttling, same core speed and everything.

Are the fans ramping up under load? Can you hear them speed up?

 

Do you remember the RPM of the fans when under LOAD using the MSI v Arctic AIOs? How do the RPMs compare?

[NorKris]

4 hours ago, Avalon1226 said:

So did I do something wrong? When at idle the temperatures are a little bit cooler at 24c-32c with the artic freeze vs 28c-35c with the msi, but when running a stress test like cinebench the temps do go to 100c and starts to thermal throttle with the artic freeze and when it was the msi it was 85c and no thermal throttling, same core speed and everything.

Can we get a picture of this pc now? 

[SavageNeo]

do not that the fans that come with the Arctic cooler are P12s. They are meant to have high static pressure, and work well with rads, or obstructed cases.

Your noctua fans do not have that static presuure. They can move air well, with opeb cases, but they are not ideal for radiators.

[Ralfi]

21 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

do not that the fans that come with the Arctic cooler are P12s. They are meant to have high static pressure, and work well with rads, or obstructed cases.

Your noctua fans do not have that static presuure. They can move air well, with opeb cases, but they are not ideal for radiators.

Just double checked…

 

Noctua NF-F12…Static pressure: 2.61 mm H₂O @ 1500RPM / 22.4dB

 

Arctic P12…Static Pressure: 2.20 mm H₂O @ 1800RPM / 10.64dB (not sure about that noise level - website says “0.3 Sone”) 43.74dB (I think they meant “3 Sone”).

 

[NorKris]

Static pressure does not rly matter THAT much on a aio rad

[Avalon1226]

6 hours ago, NorKris said:

Can we get a picture of this pc now? 

Heres pictures, the hwinfo one is idle and one is under load from cinebench after 10 sec.

[NorKris]

i would try to  turn the cooler's cold plate,  put the rad out side the case.. just for testing

[Ralfi]

@Avalon1226Is that rear fan intake or exhaust? Kind of looks like intake in that picture. You want it to be exhaust because otherwise your GPU hot air has no where to go apart from through your Radiator.

[Avalon1226]

1 minute ago, Ralfi said:

@Avalon1226Is that rear fan intake or exhaust? Kind of looks like intake in that picture. You want it to be exhaust.

Its a exhaust, the arrow on the fan is pointing outwards

[Ralfi]

7 hours ago, NorKris said:

Static pressure does not rly matter THAT much on a aio rad

Really? I thought it helped when there are obstacles in the way??

 

@Avalon1226 See my post above about fan RPM. Did you notice them speed up under load & are they spinning at similar RPM as per old AIO setup?

 

& is the fan on the pump spinning?

[Avalon1226]

2 hours ago, Ralfi said:

Really? I thought it helped when there are obstacles in the way??

 

@Avalon1226 See my post above about fan RPM. Did you notice them speed up under load & are they spinning at similar RPM as per old AIO setup?

 

& is the fan on the pump spinning?

The fan on the pump is spinning, and at idle the fans dont ramp up like the used to but under load they do, probably due to the lower idle temps