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Cvdasfg
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Budget (including currency): $1,000

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 

  • Talespire
  • VR Games
  • Civ Games
  • Sim Games, I.E. Tropico, Prison Sim, Etc.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

I'm debating between what would be the best for me. I have an existing computer that has a 4790k, nice SSD, 8 gigs of ram (in a single stick), and a rx480. Should I upgrade this or build an entirely new system?

 

At the moment I plan on playing on my existing BenQ monitor that's older and is only 60hz / 1080p for single player games and then on a large 4k tv for other couch coop games.

 

I'm thinking about upgrading my keyboard / mouse as well. I've used a Razerblackwidow ultimate with the display screen, and the original razer naga for a LONG time. I've thought about maybe going wireless for those couch gaming setups? Maybe getting one of those boards for your lap that I've seen in videos in the past?

 

I will not have to buy windows within this budget.

 

Thanks for the advice / help!

 

TX10 Build Log: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/456229-tx10-build-log/

Case: TX10-D   Proccessor: i7-5820k   MotherBoard: Asrockx99 Extreme4   Ram: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (DDR4-2400)   GPU: Asus Strix OC 980ti   Storage: 850pro 500gb, 850pro 500gb, 850pro 256gb, WD black 16tb total, Silicon Power S60 120GB   PSU: Seasonic snow silent 1050   Monitors: Three of Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0"

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I would just consider building an entirely new machine, using existing components where possible (Mainly the case.) and sell everything else on Ebay to recoup as much of the cost as you can. Or just sell the complete system. 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bZxtQ6

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($169.95 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Vetroo V5 52 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z690I AORUS ULTRA LITE DDR4 (rev. 1.0) Mini ITX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Silicon Power 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($46.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Intel 660p 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($84.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 6600 XT 8 GB Speedster SWFT 210 Video Card  ($359.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Thermaltake The Tower 100 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($102.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair CXF 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $994.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-30 12:27 EDT-0400

I went with a Mini ITX build as it will be a bit more presentable in an entertainment center like on a TV, but if you disagree feel free to change it to something larger. 

I sometimes game on my TV as well, I just use a small TV tray like this one with a Logitech G915 TKL and a Razer Orochi. It's better than one of the custom TV made solutions as you can swap the peripherals back to your desk when you're not using the TV. But if you're looking for a custom solution made for TV gaming I'd recommend finding a used razer turret as it's compact enough to not be a huge burden. 

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1 hour ago, ExpiredPancake said:

I would just consider building an entirely new machine, using existing components where possible (Mainly the case.) and sell everything else on Ebay to recoup as much of the cost as you can. Or just sell the complete system. 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bZxtQ6

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($169.95 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Vetroo V5 52 CFM CPU Cooler  ($34.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z690I AORUS ULTRA LITE DDR4 (rev. 1.0) Mini ITX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Silicon Power 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($46.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Intel 660p 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($84.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 6600 XT 8 GB Speedster SWFT 210 Video Card  ($359.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Thermaltake The Tower 100 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($102.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair CXF 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $994.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-30 12:27 EDT-0400

I went with a Mini ITX build as it will be a bit more presentable in an entertainment center like on a TV, but if you disagree feel free to change it to something larger. 

I sometimes game on my TV as well, I just use a small TV tray like this one with a Logitech G915 TKL and a Razer Orochi. It's better than one of the custom TV made solutions as you can swap the peripherals back to your desk when you're not using the TV. But if you're looking for a custom solution made for TV gaming I'd recommend finding a used razer turret as it's compact enough to not be a huge burden. 

Thanks for all the information I appreciate it! Specifically the tv trays and razer turret link is super helpful!

 

I have to wonder, is a modern i5 like the one you listed truly better then an older i7? Would I see substantial performance gains from building an entirely new one like this, vs spending it all upgrading something like a gpu for the older system?

TX10 Build Log: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/456229-tx10-build-log/

Case: TX10-D   Proccessor: i7-5820k   MotherBoard: Asrockx99 Extreme4   Ram: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (DDR4-2400)   GPU: Asus Strix OC 980ti   Storage: 850pro 500gb, 850pro 500gb, 850pro 256gb, WD black 16tb total, Silicon Power S60 120GB   PSU: Seasonic snow silent 1050   Monitors: Three of Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0"

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9 minutes ago, Cvdasfg said:

Would I see substantial performance gains from building an entirely new one like this, vs spending it all upgrading something like a gpu for the older system?

I'd say so at least. I'd be fairly confident when I'd say a 4790k would hold your gpu back if you were to just upgrade that part. You'd definitely see a massive boost in improvement if you upgraded to a 12400f as apposed to reusing the mobo and cpu.

Another issue that might arise if you reuse the mobo cpu combo would be the pcie gen of the 16x slot. While pcie is backwards compatible, you might see a performance dip if you buy a pcie gen 4 gpu.

This is about what id recommend.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LNB44s

 

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same build as @Ryuikko just cheaper 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mbvvbK

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($169.95 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 CPU Cooler  ($34.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B660-PLUS D4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Silicon Power SP016GXLZU320BDAJ5 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($46.97 @ Amazon) 
Storage: TEAMGROUP TM8FP6001T0C101 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($67.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 6600 XT 8 GB Speedster SWFT 210 Video Card  ($359.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA 220-GA-0650-X1 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $929.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-06-30 17:34 EDT-0400

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