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hello guys,

 

I needed to RMA my old Ryzen 7 5800X because it stoped working (but my pc still works with the ryzen 5 2600 I have). but when I got the replacement CPU and installed it I have the same problem. I already contacted AMD for it but do you guys have any theories on where the problem lies?

 

The motherboard I use is the Aorus x570 elite with the lates bio version.

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Welcome to the forums!
Power supply issue is my first guess. What are the rest of your system specs?

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The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

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Define "not working". Did you remove all rams and just put DIMM in and tried again? Did you clear CMOS?

mY sYsTeM iS Not pErfoRmInG aS gOOd As I sAW oN yOuTuBe. WhA t IS a GoOd FaN CuRVe??!!? wHat aRe tEh GoOd OvERclok SeTTinGS FoR My CaRd??  HoW CaN I foRcE my GpU to uSe 1o0%? BuT WiLL i HaVE Bo0tllEnEcKs? RyZEN dOeS NoT peRfORm BetTer wItH HiGhER sPEED RaM!!! dId i WiN teH SiLiCON LotTerrY? yOu ShoUlD dEsHrOuD uR GPU. my SYstEm iS UNDerPerforMiNg iN WarzONE. can mY Pc Run WiNdOwS 11 ?? woUld BaKInG MY GRaPHics card fIX it? MultimETeR TeSTiNG!! aMd'S GpU DrIvErS aRe as goOD aS NviDia's YOU SHoUlD oVERCloCk yOUR ramS To 5000C18! jellYfIn Client siDE TRanscoDinG

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1 minute ago, Loet said:

not working as in the PC works with another CPU. I did re install my ram but did not try to see if clearing CMOS works

 

What happens when 5800X is installed? Turns and off instantly? Also use just one stick of RAM, not all at once while testing. Try to test one thing at a time.

 

Just "doesnt work" doesnt give anyone anything to go by.

mY sYsTeM iS Not pErfoRmInG aS gOOd As I sAW oN yOuTuBe. WhA t IS a GoOd FaN CuRVe??!!? wHat aRe tEh GoOd OvERclok SeTTinGS FoR My CaRd??  HoW CaN I foRcE my GpU to uSe 1o0%? BuT WiLL i HaVE Bo0tllEnEcKs? RyZEN dOeS NoT peRfORm BetTer wItH HiGhER sPEED RaM!!! dId i WiN teH SiLiCON LotTerrY? yOu ShoUlD dEsHrOuD uR GPU. my SYstEm iS UNDerPerforMiNg iN WarzONE. can mY Pc Run WiNdOwS 11 ?? woUld BaKInG MY GRaPHics card fIX it? MultimETeR TeSTiNG!! aMd'S GpU DrIvErS aRe as goOD aS NviDia's YOU SHoUlD oVERCloCk yOUR ramS To 5000C18! jellYfIn Client siDE TRanscoDinG

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12 minutes ago, Levent said:

Define "not working". Did you remove all rams and just put DIMM in and tried again? Did you clear CMOS?

THIS. I revived a very cranky i3 that had sat for two years by cleaning and reseating DIMMs. Also, my 5900X rig shut down hard under heavy load and gave me a heart attack. Took me about fifteen minutes to think of it, but I tried removing the DIMMs, blowing them off and blowing out the DIMM slots, then reseating them. No further issue.

 

Could also be something your 5800X has decided it no longer likes about your RAM as well. Have you checked your DOCP and timings?

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3 minutes ago, Levent said:

What happens when 5800X is installed? Turns and off instantly? Also use just one stick of RAM, not all at once while testing. Try to test one thing at a time.

 

Just "doesnt work" doesnt give anyone anything to go by.

when the 5800X is installed and I power it on all the fans are spining at the max and my display doesn't show an input.

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17 minutes ago, Loet said:

when the 5800X is installed and I power it on all the fans are spining at the max and my display doesn't show an input.

Do you see any Debug LEDs lit up?

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1 hour ago, Mel0nMan said:

Welcome to the forums!
Power supply issue is my first guess. What are the rest of your system specs?

 

58 minutes ago, Levent said:

Define "not working". Did you remove all rams and just put DIMM in and tried again? Did you clear CMOS?

 

52 minutes ago, Levent said:

What happens when 5800X is installed? Turns and off instantly? Also use just one stick of RAM, not all at once while testing. Try to test one thing at a time.

 

Just "doesnt work" doesnt give anyone anything to go by.

 

46 minutes ago, An0maly_76 said:

THIS. I revived a very cranky i3 that had sat for two years by cleaning and reseating DIMMs. Also, my 5900X rig shut down hard under heavy load and gave me a heart attack. Took me about fifteen minutes to think of it, but I tried removing the DIMMs, blowing them off and blowing out the DIMM slots, then reseating them. No further issue.

 

Could also be something your 5800X has decided it no longer likes about your RAM as well. Have you checked your DOCP and timings?

 

27 minutes ago, BetteBalterZen said:

Do you see any Debug LEDs lit up?

Thanks for your help everybody its fixed

 

I needed to blow out the ramslots and it works fine now with 1 ram stick

 

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5 minutes ago, Loet said:

Thanks for your help everybody its fixed

 

I needed to blow out the ramslots and it works fine now with 1 ram stick

 

Awesome. With my 5900X, turned out I had bumped one of the DIMM slot latches while changing a cable. Everything was fine until it started warming up again under heavy load. Hence the heart attack and not thinking of it right away.

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Awesome. With my 5900X, turned out I had bumped one of the DIMM slot latches while changing a cable. Everything was fine until it started warming up again under heavy load. Hence the heart attack and not thinking of it right away.

I have a problem now that the cpu temp is high while idle and in the bios but i think i added not enough thermalpaste

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Just now, Loet said:

I have a problem now that the cpu temp is high while idle and in the bios but i think i added not enough thermalpaste

Obviously, you should shut it down and apply more thermal paste. Don't go crazy, though, two or three drops around the center and maybe a thin circle around those three dots should do it. Be careful to dab excess away as you tighten the cooler down, don't let any get on the board if you can help it.

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1 hour ago, An0maly_76 said:

Obviously, you should shut it down and apply more thermal paste. Don't go crazy, though, two or three drops around the center and maybe a thin circle around those three dots should do it. Be careful to dab excess away as you tighten the cooler down, don't let any get on the board if you can help it.

I tried more and less thermal paste but the cpu temp is still high

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4 hours ago, Loet said:

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1 hour ago, Loet said:

cpu temp is still high

If you can't get the CPU temps down with the troubleshooting others will help you with, keep this in mind.

https://ca.msi.com/Landing/liquid-cooler-swap-application

 

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Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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Also be sure the fan is connected properly and blowing the correct direction. Some fans can be incorrectly connected which can cause problems.

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3 hours ago, tkitch said:

well, that's not gonna kill the CPU, but that's way too high.  you may need to RMA that cooler if it's on correctly.

 

Yea i already put in a ticket. but its weird because with the 2600 the idle temps are around 50 and both have the same amount of thermalpaste

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