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Hey everybody.  I'd appreciate your expertise since I can't seem to find anything on the subject.  I'm running an ASRock X570M Pro4 motherboard with an AMD Ryzen 9 5900X and four sticks of 8GB Thermaltake Toughram DDR4 4600MHz Memory.  I found what I felt was a good deal on an 18TB Toshiba SAS drive on Ebay (till they dropped the price $30 less than a week later).  I purchased an Asus Hyper U.2 Kit and a micro U.2 cable to attach it to the motherboard.  ASRock makes their own U.2 Kit, but it's impossible to find so I split the difference and went with the Asus Hyper U.2 Kit instead.  I have updated the BIOS to the latest version. 

 

I can think of two possible problems.  Compatibility between U.2 and SAS (I can't make heads or tails of any of the articles I've found comparing the two).  Or the motherboard/U.2 kit don't have the requisite SAS controllers and I need to spring for a SAS controller.  This will eat up precious PCIe space I don't really have which may or may not be the solution I need. 

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Yea that u.2 or any u.2 adapter won't work with a sas hdd. You need a sas controller like a lsi 9207-8i to use this drive. Those cards have a chip that converts the pcie signals to sas for the drive to use. u.2 just uses pcie, and only pcie drives will work with these adapters.

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As was said,  U.2 can carry a lot... PCIe, SATA, or SAS. You'd need a U.2 SAS card to use a SAS hard drive.

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2 hours ago, AidanA said:

Hey everybody.  I'd appreciate your expertise since I can't seem to find anything on the subject.  I'm running an ASRock X570M Pro4 motherboard with an AMD Ryzen 9 5900X and four sticks of 8GB Thermaltake Toughram DDR4 4600MHz Memory.  I found what I felt was a good deal on an 18TB Toshiba SAS drive on Ebay (till they dropped the price $30 less than a week later).  I purchased an Asus Hyper U.2 Kit and a micro U.2 cable to attach it to the motherboard.  ASRock makes their own U.2 Kit, but it's impossible to find so I split the difference and went with the Asus Hyper U.2 Kit instead.  I have updated the BIOS to the latest version. 

 

I can think of two possible problems.  Compatibility between U.2 and SAS (I can't make heads or tails of any of the articles I've found comparing the two).  Or the motherboard/U.2 kit don't have the requisite SAS controllers and I need to spring for a SAS controller.  This will eat up precious PCIe space I don't really have which may or may not be the solution I need. 

Why do you need SAS? they are regularly found in server rooms. 

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Thanks everybody for the quick responses.  I am looking into PCIe RAID controllers.  Any suggestions?  I saw the LSI card and it's a great suggestion at that price point, but it says 6Gbps and I would like to use the entire 12Gbps my SAS drives are capable of.

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15 hours ago, AidanA said:

Thanks everybody for the quick responses.  I am looking into PCIe RAID controllers.  Any suggestions?  I saw the LSI card and it's a great suggestion at that price point, but it says 6Gbps and I would like to use the entire 12Gbps my SAS drives are capable of.

Your sas drives don't get anywhere close to 12 Gbps, don't worry. 

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