Help me choose a path

[Leviorel]

Hi everyone.
Im a Videographer and video editor Doing mostly short videos for social media.
Im looking to buy a new system OR upgrade my current one.
My current PC was assembled about 3 years ago for light gaming and not video editing in mind,
but that's how things went and it became my main machine, but it not doing very well.
Im using davinchi resolve Studio, some fusion effect. Files are at maximum 4k h.265 4:4:2, but uselly 1080,h.264.
So...ill right down my current build and then explain my thoughts.

CPU: ryzen 3400g
Motherboard: Asus prime b450m-a
GPU: rx 570 4gb mini
8x2 gb 3200 ram
1tb m.2 ssd
corsair 450w psu
Generic case

The first path: Upgrading the current build.
because this build already exist i can get a powerful gpu, 3070\ti. which means ill need to upgrade my psu also to 750W.
from my current research i understand that the most powerful cpu i can put on this board is ryzen 5600x.
also add another 2x8 ram sticks for 32 gb ram. problem with this build is it will be at its maximum upgrades.

The second path: New Intel Build
the new 12th gen intel looks great and future proof.
i can get for the same price a better mobo with usb-c (which is important to me), better case.
cpu with 10-12 cores as opposed to 6.
faster ram.
but the problem is ill have to keep my rx570 and in the future get a better gpu.

what would you say is the better option?
i want to pc to last for 4-5 years.
very important to me that the pc will not be Overkill for my use.

sorry for long post and thank you

 

[Rauten]

If I were you, I'd probably go Intel, specially if you want your computer to last you a while.

The 5600X is a dead end for you, because of the lackluster VRM (power distribution) on your current motherboard.

If you get a good Intel 12th gen mobo you can, for now, go a bit cheap (12400f) so you can get better components elsewhere, then upgrade up to a 12700 or even 12900 later down the line.

Do get a DDR4 motherboard, though. DDR5 is still stupid expensive and little to no performance uplift in most use cases. I'd say, get a motherboard with 4 RAM slots and a kit of 2x16GBs. That way you get 32GBs now and the possibility to expand to 64GBs in the future if needed - again, trying to help the platform stay alive for as long as possible for you.

[Leviorel]

5 minutes ago, Rauten said:

If I were you, I'd probably go Intel, specially if you want your computer to last you a while.

The 5600X is a dead end for you, because of the lackluster VRM (power distribution) on your current motherboard.

If you get a good Intel 12th gen mobo you can, for now, go a bit cheap (12400f) so you can get better components elsewhere, then upgrade up to a 12700 or even 12900 later down the line.

Do get a DDR4 motherboard, though. DDR5 is still stupid expensive and little to no performance uplift in most use cases. I'd say, get a motherboard with 4 RAM slots and a kit of 2x16GBs. That way you get 32GBs now and the possibility to expand to 64GBs in the future if needed - again, trying to help the platform stay alive for as long as possible for you.

thanks!

ddr 5 isnt better to invest into? in which applications it does help?

really no improving? so why does it exist?

[Rauten]

1 hour ago, Leviorel said:

thanks!

ddr 5 isnt better to invest into? in which applications it does help?

really no improving? so why does it exist?

Applications that demand a crapton of memory bandwidth. I think DaVinci Resolve does gain a bit of performance, but the price difference is.... ugh....

This is common whenever the market changes DDR generations - the first year, year and a half is "meh"-ish and not much of an improvement over the previous one. Takes time for the new technology to "spread its legs".

And right now, DDR5 is stupid expensive and just not worth the extra cost for most people. Only if you have applications that really demand super fast RAM without regards for latency, or if you have really deep pockets and you just don't care about the cost.

[cmndr]

1. In theory you could probably get a 5950x for that board and it'd work. I wouldn't advise it though. The 5700X is the highest I'd consider. 5600X is also a reasonable choice.
2. DDR5 is NOT an investment. Heck most PC stuff isn't an "investment" - it loses value. It's a commodity and a tool. Your goal should be to check as many boxes on performance and reliability as possible at the lowest possible cost. DDR5 costs double. It doesn't move the needle on performance.
3. Future proofing isn't really a thing for computers.... cables going into a wall or attic, sure spend $30 extra since the real cost is time and labor.
4.
 

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problem with this build is it will be at its maximum upgrades.

You'd eventually run into the same issue if you go with a new Alderlake 12th gen intel build as well...
For graphic design and the like Alderlake and Zen 3 are 'close enough'

A 12600k and a 5700x are going to offer somewhat similar performance (generally a slight to moderate edge to the 12600k) in design tasks. If you include the motherboard cost (and aren't able to sell/salvage your current parets) the 12600k is something like 50% more expensive though.
 

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i want to pc to last for 4-5 years.

It's good to have a lifespan range. Do be aware that if you go for less expensive options, you don't have to push as far out (think 3-4 years if you go for lower cost options) while still having the same long term spend.

[Leviorel]

21 minutes ago, cmndr said:

1. In theory you could probably get a 5950x for that board and it'd work. I wouldn't advise it though. The 5700X is the highest I'd consider. 5600X is also a reasonable choice.
2. DDR5 is NOT an investment. Heck most PC stuff isn't an "investment" - it loses value. It's a commodity and a tool. Your goal should be to check as many boxes on performance and reliability as possible at the lowest possible cost. DDR5 costs double. It doesn't move the needle on performance.
3. Future proofing isn't really a thing for computers.... cables going into a wall or attic, sure spend $30 extra since the real cost is time and labor.
4.
 

You'd eventually run into the same issue if you go with a new Alderlake 12th gen intel build as well...
For graphic design and the like Alderlake and Zen 3 are 'close enough'

A 12600k and a 5700x are going to offer somewhat similar performance (generally a slight to moderate edge to the 12600k) in design tasks. If you include the motherboard cost (and aren't able to sell/salvage your current parets) the 12600k is something like 50% more expensive though.
 

It's good to have a lifespan range. Do be aware that if you go for less expensive options, you don't have to push as far out (think 3-4 years if you go for lower cost options) while still having the same long term spend.

Yeah computer getting "old" fast. espacialy when you in the market to get a new one and you see that thers always something better, never ending story.

thats why i aim to get something good that isnt overkill and setting a lifespan range like you said.

so my mobo isnt going to struggle with the 5700x? 

i saw it draws the same W like 5600x and it supports up to 8 cores so i dont know why people told me its too much

 

what wwould you say a better option?

3060ti and 5700x or 5600x with 3070ti.

[cmndr]

29 minutes ago, Leviorel said:

so my mobo isnt going to struggle with the 5700x? 

i saw it draws the same W like 5600x and it supports up to 8 cores so i dont know why people told me its too much

Assuming you're not overclocking, I expect it'd be fine. I ran a 3900x on an ASROCK B450m for a year and a half without issue and that sucks almost 2x the power (though the ASROCK board has somewhat better VRM cooling)

I'm looking things up right now as I'm writing this (so take everything I say with a grain of salt)

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Tier E: 75A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1600, 3600 and 5600X, a bit more than maxed out 2500X, 95W TDP CPUs at stock with downdraft air cooler

I think this was posted before the 5700x came out. I take TDPs with a grain of salt but... the list says 95W CPUs are OK and the 5700x is listed as a 65W part.
 

29 minutes ago, Leviorel said:

what wwould you say a better option?

3060ti and 5700x or 5600x with 3070ti.

If the use case is primarily gaming... the graphics card usually matters the most.

 

 

[brob]

If you decide on 12th gen Intel, I'd suggest going with a locked cpu (non K suffix) on a B660 or H670 motherboard. While most benchmarks use unlocked cpu, the performance difference is usually less than 3%. There is a cost saving and one can achieve good performance on slightly lower performance cooling.

 

10 hours ago, Leviorel said:

thanks!

ddr 5 isnt better to invest into? in which applications it does help?

really no improving? so why does it exist?

 

DDR5 does offer better performance in several content creation tasks. This will only get better as lower latency and higher speed modules become available. At the moment the benefits don't outweigh the cost. That will change. I suspect by early next year DDR5 will dominate since the new AMD platform is rumored to be DDR5 only.