Help On A New Build?

[Jay___]

Hey, everyone. With the recent death of my laptop occurring as I was going to upgrade consoles, I've decided it's more economically sensible to build a PC that can play games rather than buy a new laptop and a next/current/whatever-the-hell generation console. I think I've done alright so far, but having never done this before, I don't suppose I have much to lose asking people with experience. If it helps, I'll be using it primarily for web browsing, and games. I already have a monitor and more audio equipment then I have any right to own. 
 
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Slips_Perfidy/saved/4pT7
 
Here's the build I've compiled so far. I believe everything is compatible. What are the short-comings of the build (if nothing is incompatible)? If I were going to SLI another 760 later down the line, what would I need to change now?
 
I'm curious if I should get the FX-6300 as opposed to the 4300. I was under the impression that fewer cores, in general, were better for gaming, as there aren't any games really optimized to take advantage of the higher number of cores.
 
Thanks for any help, guys.

[JLCitadel]

You didn't pick a motherboard...

[Freaky_spider]

AMD has more cores but their cores are not as powerfull as intel's cores, and thus i would def go with a 6300 as the 4300 is really underpowered

[ShadowofGhosts]

An FX 4300 is fine for now, but will be a problem in the future as games such as Watch Dogs and BF4 do take advantage of AMD's 6 and 8 Cores. Eventually, Intel will also come on board with 6 and 8 core CPUs, and most games will use 6 and 8 Cores. For the sake of future-proofing, spend the extra $10 and get the FX 6300. 

[JLCitadel]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($179.99 @ Micro Center) 

CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard:  ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory:  G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($68.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.99 @ NCIX US) 

Video Card:  EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card  ($339.99 @ NCIX US) 

Case:  Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ NCIX US) 

Power Supply:  Raidmax 700W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($63.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Optical Drive:  LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer  ($15.98 @ OutletPC) 

Total: $892.89

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-21 10:20 EDT-0400)

 

Get a friend with windows os oem to install it for you, get a cheap 10$ mouse from target or walmart.

Your previous build couldn't SLI because 

A you didnt choose a mobo period

b your wattage on your psu was too low.

 

Generally SLI and OC takes around 650 watts.

While this build doesn't have an SSD you can buy a better mouse and SSD down the road as your first upgrade

 

Then SLI and add in two more sticks of 4gb memory.

[Jay___]

Damn, you guys are quick! Thanks.

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($179.99 @ Micro Center) 

CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard:  ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory:  G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($68.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.99 @ NCIX US) 

Video Card:  EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card  ($339.99 @ NCIX US) 

Case:  Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ NCIX US) 

Power Supply:  Raidmax 700W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($63.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Optical Drive:  LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer  ($15.98 @ OutletPC) 

Total: $892.89

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-21 10:20 EDT-0400)

 

Get a friend with windows os oem to install it for you, get a cheap 10$ mouse from target or walmart.

Your previous build couldn't SLI because 

A you didnt choose a mobo period

b your wattage on your psu was too low.

 

Generally SLI and OC takes around 650 watts.

While this build doesn't have an SSD you can buy a better mouse and SSD down the road as your first upgrade

 

Then SLI and add in two more sticks of 4gb memory.

 

 

I actually posted the wrong link.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Slips_Perfidy/saved/4r76

 

Same components, but it contained a mobo. I rather like the build you've compiled, though. My friend, competitive CS player, swears by the Adder though. SSD was the plan for later down the line.

[JLCitadel]

Damn, you guys are quick! Thanks.

 

 

I actually posted the wrong link.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Slips_Perfidy/saved/4r76

 

Same components, but it contained a mobo. I rather like the build you've compiled, though. My friend, competitive CS player, swears by the Adder though. SSD was the plan for later down the line.

 

I'm sure plenty of "pros" swear by different equipment. It comes down to what feels right in YOUR hand.

 

I'm not saying DON'T get the mouse, i'm saying way to get it till later.

[Jay___]

I'm sure plenty of "pros" swear by different equipment. It comes down to what feels right in YOUR hand.

 

I'm not saying DON'T get the mouse, i'm saying way to get it till later.

 

That seems conventionally wise enough for me. Thanks, I think I'll elect to go with your build, or at least use your build as a foundation for mine.

[dizmo]

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

 

CPU:  Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($179.99 @ Micro Center) 

CPU Cooler:  Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($29.98 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard:  ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 

Memory:  G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($68.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage:  Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($48.99 @ NCIX US) 

Video Card:  EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card  ($339.99 @ NCIX US) 

Case:  Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case  ($34.99 @ NCIX US) 

Power Supply:  Raidmax 700W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($63.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Optical Drive:  LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer  ($15.98 @ OutletPC) 

Total: $892.89

(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-21 10:20 EDT-0400)

 

Get a friend with windows os oem to install it for you, get a cheap 10$ mouse from target or walmart.

Your previous build couldn't SLI because 

A you didnt choose a mobo period

b your wattage on your psu was too low.

 

Generally SLI and OC takes around 650 watts.

While this build doesn't have an SSD you can buy a better mouse and SSD down the road as your first upgrade

 

Then SLI and add in two more sticks of 4gb memory.

 

I like most of this build, however I would get the 1tb WD Blue. It's like $5 more for double the space.

The optical drive is borderline useless.

I'd also cheap out on the mouse and get a solid SSD. It's a much, much bigger pain in the ass to replace an HDD with an SSD, swapping your OS etc than it is to simply unplug a mouse.

Avoid that power supply and get something of quality. It's the heart of your computer, and realistically should be one of the higher investment areas.

[Jay___]

I like most of this build, however I would get the 1tb WD Blue. It's like $5 more for double the space.

The optical drive is borderline useless.

I'd also cheap out on the mouse and get a solid SSD. It's a much, much bigger pain in the ass to replace an HDD with an SSD, swapping your OS etc than it is to simply unplug a mouse.

Avoid that power supply and get something of quality. It's the heart of your computer, and realistically should be one of the higher investment areas.

 

I understand it is only slightly more expensive to get a 1TB HDD, but I could damn near fit every file I have on a 120 gig SSD. It just doesn't seem practical to invest in space that I doubt I'd ever use.

 

I'll ditch the mouse for now, but I'm not sure if I can include an SSD. My budget is around 850-950$.

 

What PSU do you recommend? This is one area I'm totally clueless in.

 

Thanks, bud.

[JLCitadel]

That seems conventionally wise enough for me. Thanks, I think I'll elect to go with your build, or at least use your build as a foundation for mine.

 

Just make sure you match up the wattage of your PSU and your Mobo features with your plans for the future

 

You need to make sure your Mobo supports the CPU RaM and SLI .

 

Your PSU needs to have a little headroom for SLI Config (around 700ws+) is fine.

 

Psu get a semi-modular bronze silver gold or platinum as well as 700w+

 

the one i picked is a good choice

[dizmo]

I understand it is only slightly more expensive to get a 1TB HDD, but I could damn near fit every file I have on a 120 gig SSD. It just doesn't seem practical to invest in space that I doubt I'd ever use.

 

I'll ditch the mouse for now, but I'm not sure if I can include an SSD. My budget is around 850-950$.

 

What PSU do you recommend? This is one area I'm totally clueless in.

 

Thanks, bud.

Then I'd get an SSD for now, and get an HDD later if you need.

120gb SSD's are only about $80. Samsung Evo is the one I'd go with.

If you play a lot of games think of it this way; newer games are going to take more space. Figure 50+ GB per title. It adds up quickly.

Do you download movies or music at all? They rapidly add up too. I never thought I'd fill my 2tb external, but it's already getting pretty close.

I'd go with a brand like Corsair (excellent warranty and support), EVGA (same as Corsair) or Seasonic.

There are of course other brands, and some of their PSU's are great, but generally everything from these guys is solid.

I'd recommend reading reviews before purchasing something. Don't blindly trust what you read on a forum. It's a great place to get ideas, but doing your own research as well will pay off in the end.

 

This site's a great way to figure out how much power you should try and get.

http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

I usually go one or two steps above their recommendation.

 

You can usually find sales on PSU's. I just picked up a replacement one for 60% off from NCIX.

 

Just make sure you match up the wattage of your PSU and your Mobo features with your plans for the future

 

You need to make sure your Mobo supports the CPU RaM and SLI .

 

Your PSU needs to have a little headroom for SLI Config (around 700ws+) is fine.

 

Psu get a semi-modular bronze silver gold or platinum as well as 700w+

 

the one i picked is a good choice

While your recommendations are correct, the power supply you picked is garbage. Raidmax is one of the worst brands when it comes to PSU's. They should be avoided at all costs.

[JLCitadel]

Then I'd get an SSD for now, and get an HDD later if you need.

120gb SSD's are only about $80. Samsung Evo is the one I'd go with.

If you play a lot of games think of it this way; newer games are going to take more space. Figure 50+ GB per title. It adds up quickly.

Do you download movies or music at all? They rapidly add up too. I never thought I'd fill my 2tb external, but it's already getting pretty close.

I'd go with a brand like Corsair (excellent warranty and support), EVGA (same as Corsair) or Seasonic.

There are of course other brands, and some of their PSU's are great, but generally everything from these guys is solid.

I'd recommend reading reviews before purchasing something. Don't blindly trust what you read on a forum. It's a great place to get ideas, but doing your own research as well will pay off in the end.

This site's a great way to figure out how much power you should try and get.

http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

I usually go one or two steps above their recommendation.

You can usually find sales on PSU's. I just picked up a replacement one for 60% off from NCIX.

While your recommendations are correct, the power supply you picked is garbage. Raidmax is one of the worst brands when it comes to PSU's. They should be avoided at all costs.

Theres tons of people who've purchased this an were happy with thr results. While its not the worlds best psu it certainly isnt bad for the price. You'd pay an extra 20-30 for a great quality 700watt. (I will go double check for his sake but im on my phone so it might take a little)

[dizmo]

Theres tons of people who've purchased this an were happy with thr results. While its not the worlds best psu it certainly isnt bad for the price. You'd pay an extra 20-30 for a great quality 700watt. (I will go double check for his sake but im on my phone so it might take a little)

It has a pretty low rating on PCPP, and in general the brand is garbage.

A quality Corsair or Seasonic unit is only $40 more. An EVGA can be had for a mere $15 more.

When buying a power supply you should get a quality unit. A bad PSU can take other items with it when it dies. It's also a royal PITA to replace all the cables.

[JLCitadel]

I picked the wrong psu im sorry. Im on my phone so its a little hard. Theres one that's cheaper that's better.http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-power-supply-hive750

[Jay___]

I picked the wrong psu im sorry. Im on my phone so its a little hard. Theres one that's cheaper that's better.http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-power-supply-hive750

So far, all that I've done is nix the optical drive, drop the GPU to a 760 and add your newly recommended PSU, which most reviews regard quite highly. I still haven't decided whether or not go SSD out of the gate or later, but I'll come to it.

 

No worries about the phone, man. You guys have helped a ton.

[JLCitadel]

Id recommend 770 EVGA its the best p2p and quality