Posted February 15, 2022 Anyone got any recommendations for Gigabit capable power line adapters for connecting my PC to my router? Looking for reliability, low latency (for gaming) and gigabit speeds (for connection to NAS at the router, better than gigabit won't be beneficial because the ports on both machines and the router are all gigabit). (An LTT Labs video testing lots of power line adapters would be great) I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Expand for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components and other tech. I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need. Common build advice: 1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticably improve performance past 240mm. useful websites: https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier. He/Him I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 3 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). While I believe I have an decent amount of experience in spec’ing, building and troubleshooting computers, keep in mind I'm not an expert or a professional and I make mistakes. Favourite Games of all time: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii Main PC: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Secondary PC: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P TrueNAS Server: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Laptop: 13.4" ASUS GZ301ZE ROG Flow Z13, WUXGA 120Hz, i9 12900H, 16GB DDR5, 1TB NVMe SSD, 4GB RTX 3050 Ti, TB4, Win11 Home, Used with: 2*ThinkPad Universal Thunderbolt 4 Dock, Logitech G603, Logitech G502 Hero, Logitech K120, Logitech G915 TKL, Xbox Elite Wireless Controller Series 2, Logitech G PRO X Gaming-Headset (with Blue Icepop in Black), {specs to be updated: two monitors} Other: LTT Screwdriver, LTT Stubby Screwdriver, IFIXIT Pro Tech Toolkit, Playstation 1 SCPH-102, Playstation 2 SCPH-30003, Gameboy Micro Silver OXY-001, Nintendo Wii U WUP-001(03), Playstation 4 CUH-1116A, Nintendo Switch OLED HEG-001, Yamaha RX-A4A Black AV Receiver, Monitor Audio Radius (4*90s, 1*200s, 2*270s, 1*380s), TP-Link TL-SG105-M2, Netgear GS308, IPhone 14 Pro Max 128GB Space Black, Secretlab TITAN Evo (Black SoftWeave Plus Fabric), 2*CyberPower BR1200ELCD-UK BRICs Series, Samsung 40" ES6800 Series 6 SMART 3D FHD LED TV, UGREEN USB 3.2 Gen 2 10Gbps M.2 NVMe SSD Enclosure, SABRENT 3.5" SATA drive docking station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 15, 2022 3 hours ago, will0hlep said: (An LTT Labs video testing lots of power line adapters would be great) Powerline adapters dont work 100% of the time in everyones home. It comes down to quality of the wiring. There not being any big loads (Like refrigerator) on the circuit. Also while you can plug adapters in to different circuits, you will see performance loss. If you have to cross a phase, then your pretty much boned. Speeds will vary, just because it says it can do Gigabit doesn't mean it will. Little food for thought. Many adapters have an advertised speed on the box, its the speed you will see between adapters. You need to verify they have Gigabit ports. Like it might advertise 500 Mbps, however the adapters only have 100 Mbps Ethernet ports. I just want to sit back and watch the world burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 15, 2022 Also like WiFi, Gigabit adapters wont necessarily push Gigabit real-world. Thus why its better to buy faster adapters than you "think" you need, and one reason why those adapters might still only have Gigabit ports. Router: Intel N100 (pfSense) WiFi6: Zyxel NWA210AX (1.7Gbit peak at 160Mhz) WiFi5: Ubiquiti NanoHD OpenWRT (~500Mbit at 80Mhz) Switches: Netgear MS510TXUP, MS510TXPP, GS110EMX ISPs: Zen Full Fibre 900 (~930Mbit down, 115Mbit up) + Three 5G (~800Mbit down, 115Mbit up) Upgrading Laptop/Desktop CNVIo WiFi 5 cards to PCIe WiFi6e/7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 16, 2022 Author 14 hours ago, Alex Atkin UK said: Also like WiFi, Gigabit adapters wont necessarily push Gigabit real-world. Thus why its better to buy faster adapters than you "think" you need, and one reason why those adapters might still only have Gigabit ports. 14 hours ago, Donut417 said: Powerline adapters dont work 100% of the time in everyones home. It comes down to quality of the wiring. There not being any big loads (Like refrigerator) on the circuit. Also while you can plug adapters in to different circuits, you will see performance loss. If you have to cross a phase, then your pretty much boned. Speeds will vary, just because it says it can do Gigabit doesn't mean it will. Little food for thought. Many adapters have an advertised speed on the box, its the speed you will see between adapters. You need to verify they have Gigabit ports. Like it might advertise 500 Mbps, however the adapters only have 100 Mbps Ethernet ports. yeah, I was aware that I wouldn't achieve actual gigabit speeds but any advice that leads to buying a better device and therefore gets a better speed is appreciated I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Expand for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components and other tech. I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need. Common build advice: 1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticably improve performance past 240mm. useful websites: https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier. He/Him I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 3 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). While I believe I have an decent amount of experience in spec’ing, building and troubleshooting computers, keep in mind I'm not an expert or a professional and I make mistakes. Favourite Games of all time: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii Main PC: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Secondary PC: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P TrueNAS Server: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Laptop: 13.4" ASUS GZ301ZE ROG Flow Z13, WUXGA 120Hz, i9 12900H, 16GB DDR5, 1TB NVMe SSD, 4GB RTX 3050 Ti, TB4, Win11 Home, Used with: 2*ThinkPad Universal Thunderbolt 4 Dock, Logitech G603, Logitech G502 Hero, Logitech K120, Logitech G915 TKL, Xbox Elite Wireless Controller Series 2, Logitech G PRO X Gaming-Headset (with Blue Icepop in Black), {specs to be updated: two monitors} Other: LTT Screwdriver, LTT Stubby Screwdriver, IFIXIT Pro Tech Toolkit, Playstation 1 SCPH-102, Playstation 2 SCPH-30003, Gameboy Micro Silver OXY-001, Nintendo Wii U WUP-001(03), Playstation 4 CUH-1116A, Nintendo Switch OLED HEG-001, Yamaha RX-A4A Black AV Receiver, Monitor Audio Radius (4*90s, 1*200s, 2*270s, 1*380s), TP-Link TL-SG105-M2, Netgear GS308, IPhone 14 Pro Max 128GB Space Black, Secretlab TITAN Evo (Black SoftWeave Plus Fabric), 2*CyberPower BR1200ELCD-UK BRICs Series, Samsung 40" ES6800 Series 6 SMART 3D FHD LED TV, UGREEN USB 3.2 Gen 2 10Gbps M.2 NVMe SSD Enclosure, SABRENT 3.5" SATA drive docking station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 16, 2022 18 hours ago, will0hlep said: Anyone got any recommendations for Gigabit capable power line adapters for connecting my PC to my router? Looking for reliability, low latency (for gaming) and gigabit speeds (for connection to NAS at the router, better than gigabit won't be beneficial because the ports on both machines and the router are all gigabit). (An LTT Labs video testing lots of power line adapters would be great) I use netgear powerline adapters (pl1000) and although I don't get anywhere near the advertised speeds, the connection has always been reliable and stable. This, of course is dependent on the wiring in your home. I've used it for online gaming and the speeds were good enough. Latency about doubles for me but was perfectly acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 16, 2022 Author Anyone heard of Devolo? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Devolo-Magic-LAN-Powerline-Pass-Thru/dp/B07H5VNN3T/ref=sr_1_5?adgrpid=69625965033&gclid=Cj0KCQiA3rKQBhCNARIsACUEW_YSZ7LUquzlKFQJ4nqi63Vy2jcV6GyfLbrIGZZ81k-CzQNXyVjm-5waAucXEALw_wcB&hvadid=338960835831&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9045717&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=5682311171407071707&hvtargid=kwd-361377255025&hydadcr=25458_1819751&keywords=av2000%2Btp%2Blink&qid=1645041229&sr=8-5&th=1 If not then the alternative is this from TP-Link https://www.amazon.co.uk/TL-PA9020PKIT-Passthrough-Powerline-Configuration-UK/dp/B01FFBN4MO/ref=sr_1_1?adgrpid=69625965033&gclid=Cj0KCQiA3rKQBhCNARIsACUEW_YSZ7LUquzlKFQJ4nqi63Vy2jcV6GyfLbrIGZZ81k-CzQNXyVjm-5waAucXEALw_wcB&hvadid=338960835831&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9045717&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=5682311171407071707&hvtargid=kwd-361377255025&hydadcr=25458_1819751&keywords=av2000%2Btp%2Blink&qid=1645041106&sr=8-1&th=1 I might be experienced, but I'm human and I do make mistakes. Expand for common PC building advice, a short bio and a list of my components and other tech. I edit my messages after sending them alot, please refresh before posting your reply. Please try to be clear and specific, you'll get a better answer. Please remember to mark solutions once you have the information you need. Common build advice: 1) Buy the cheapest (well reviewed) motherboard that has the features you need. Paying more typically only gets you features you won’t use. 2) only get as much RAM as you need, getting more won’t (typically) make your PC faster. 3) While I recommend getting an NVMe drive, you don’t need to splurge for an expensive drive with DRam cache, DRamless drives are fine for gamers. 4) paying for looks is fine, just don’t break the bank. 5) Tower coolers are usually good enough, unless you go top tier Intel or plan on OCing. 6) OCing is a dead meme, you probably shouldn’t bother. 7) "Bottlenecks" rarely matter and "Future-proofing" is a myth. 8) AIOs don't noticably improve performance past 240mm. useful websites: https://www.productchart.com - helps compare monitors, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com - makes designing a PC easier. He/Him I'm a PhD student working in the fields of reinforcement learning and traffic control. PCs are one of my hobbies and I've built many PCs and performed upgrades on a few laptops (for myself, friends and family). My personal computers include 3 windows (10/11) machines and a TrueNAS server (and I'm looking to move to dual booting Linux Mint on my main machine in future). While I believe I have an decent amount of experience in spec’ing, building and troubleshooting computers, keep in mind I'm not an expert or a professional and I make mistakes. Favourite Games of all time: World of Tanks, Runescape, Subnautica, Metroid (Fusion and Dread), Spyro: Year of the Dragon (Original and Reignited Trilogy), Crash Bash, Mario Kart Wii Main PC: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/NByp3C Secondary PC: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/cc9K7P TrueNAS Server: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/will0hlep/saved/m37w3C Laptop: 13.4" ASUS GZ301ZE ROG Flow Z13, WUXGA 120Hz, i9 12900H, 16GB DDR5, 1TB NVMe SSD, 4GB RTX 3050 Ti, TB4, Win11 Home, Used with: 2*ThinkPad Universal Thunderbolt 4 Dock, Logitech G603, Logitech G502 Hero, Logitech K120, Logitech G915 TKL, Xbox Elite Wireless Controller Series 2, Logitech G PRO X Gaming-Headset (with Blue Icepop in Black), {specs to be updated: two monitors} Other: LTT Screwdriver, LTT Stubby Screwdriver, IFIXIT Pro Tech Toolkit, Playstation 1 SCPH-102, Playstation 2 SCPH-30003, Gameboy Micro Silver OXY-001, Nintendo Wii U WUP-001(03), Playstation 4 CUH-1116A, Nintendo Switch OLED HEG-001, Yamaha RX-A4A Black AV Receiver, Monitor Audio Radius (4*90s, 1*200s, 2*270s, 1*380s), TP-Link TL-SG105-M2, Netgear GS308, IPhone 14 Pro Max 128GB Space Black, Secretlab TITAN Evo (Black SoftWeave Plus Fabric), 2*CyberPower BR1200ELCD-UK BRICs Series, Samsung 40" ES6800 Series 6 SMART 3D FHD LED TV, UGREEN USB 3.2 Gen 2 10Gbps M.2 NVMe SSD Enclosure, SABRENT 3.5" SATA drive docking station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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