Looking for advice for first PC

[gamer854]

Budget (including currency): $1300 CAD

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Minecraft, Far Cry, COD, CS:GO, and I would like to be able to record/edit videos 

Other details: 
-I already have a monitor available to me
-This would be my first build, so I would probably want a prebuilt, but I wouldn't mind building my own

-The goal is to be able to record and edit decent gameplay at 1080p 
-Ideally would like 60+ FPS for most titles (Although it might not be possible with my budget) 

[Tech87]

58 minutes ago, gamer854 said:

Budget (including currency): $1300 CAD

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Minecraft, Far Cry, COD, CS:GO, and I would like to be able to record/edit videos 

Other details: 
-I already have a monitor available to me
-This would be my first build, so I would probably want a prebuilt, but I wouldn't mind building my own

-The goal is to be able to record and edit decent gameplay at 1080p 
-Ideally would like 60+ FPS for most titles (Although it might not be possible with my budget) 

Do you happen to have a GPU?

If not, you will likely need to spend half your budget on one to get something decent.

[Tech87]

1 hour ago, gamer854 said:

Budget (including currency): $1300 CAD

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Minecraft, Far Cry, COD, CS:GO, and I would like to be able to record/edit videos 

Other details: 
-I already have a monitor available to me
-This would be my first build, so I would probably want a prebuilt, but I wouldn't mind building my own

-The goal is to be able to record and edit decent gameplay at 1080p 
-Ideally would like 60+ FPS for most titles (Although it might not be possible with my budget) 

This seems to be a half decent pre-built.

The i7 9700 and 1660 SUPER should be able to handle most titles at 1080p with 60+ frames.

 

I'll let you know if I find something better within your budget.

[Bombastinator]

1 hour ago, gamer854 said:

Budget (including currency): $1300 CAD

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Minecraft, Far Cry, COD, CS:GO, and I would like to be able to record/edit videos 

Other details: 
-I already have a monitor available to me
-This would be my first build, so I would probably want a prebuilt, but I wouldn't mind building my own

-The goal is to be able to record and edit decent gameplay at 1080p 
-Ideally would like 60+ FPS for most titles (Although it might not be possible with my budget) 

What is the refresh rate of the monitor? If it’s only 60hz more won’t help much.  A few of the titles you mentioned are supposed to benefit a lot by 100+hz frame rates.  If your monitor won’t do it, the amount of help those higher frame  rates give is limited. Lately the hard part is a GPU.  The best iGPs can get pretty close to the lower end sorts of 1030 (apparently all 1030s are not created equal.  Has to do with memory type mostly iirc) so for a new machine that is something of a minimum.  Such things can often run things at 1080p low. So if that is all you have use for, Xe or Vega11 IGPs may be enough.  If not one needs a decent GPU and they have been hard to get for reasonable prices lately.  Standard move is to first get ahold of a good deal on a video card, and then build the system around that. 

[gamer854]

20 minutes ago, Tech87 said:

This seems to be a half decent pre-built.

The i7 9700 and 1660 SUPER should be able to handle most titles at 1080p with 60+ frames.

 

I'll let you know if I find something better within your budget.

Thanks!

33 minutes ago, Tech87 said:

Do you happen to have a GPU?

If not, you will likely need to spend half your budget on one to get something decent.

No I do not, but I am willing to spend some on a decent GPU.

9 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

What is the refresh rate of the monitor? If it’s only 60hz more won’t help much.  A few of the titles you mentioned are supposed to benefit a lot by 100+hz frame rates.  If your monitor won’t do it, the amount of help those higher frame  rates give is limited. Lately the hard part is a GPU.  The best iGPs can get pretty close to the lower end sorts of 1030 (apparently all 1030s are not created equal.  Has to do with memory type mostly iirc) so for a new machine that is something of a minimum.  Such things can often run things at 1080p low. So if that is all you have use for, Xe or Vega11 IGPs may be enough.  If not one needs a decent GPU and they have been hard to get for reasonable prices lately.  Standard move is to first get ahold of a good deal on a video card, and then build the system around that. 

I believe it is 144hz so it should be good. Thanks for the advice on the GPU, i'm thinking potentially a 1660 SUPER or something like that (not sure if there are better alternates for the value), which atm is around $640 (on PCPartPicker)

[Bombastinator]

13 minutes ago, gamer854 said:

Thanks!

No I do not, but I am willing to spend some on a decent GPU.

I believe it is 144hz so it should be good. Thanks for the advice on the GPU, i'm thinking potentially a 1660 SUPER or something like that (not sure if there are better alternates for the value), which atm is around $640 (on PCPartPicker)

That use to be a sub $300 card (plus it’s an old design) to give you an idea of the price hikes involved

[gamer854]

Just now, Bombastinator said:

That use to be a sub $300 card (plus it’s an old design) to give you an idea of the price hikes involved

Yeah, GPU prices are insane right now.

 

1 hour ago, Tech87 said:

This seems to be a half decent pre-built.

The i7 9700 and 1660 SUPER should be able to handle most titles at 1080p with 60+ frames.

 

I'll let you know if I find something better within your budget.

I did find a PC on newegg for about $50 over my budget, but I can just wait a little longer and be able to get that one. (Link: https://www.newegg.ca/abs-computer-technologies-ali416/p/N82E16883102994?Item=N82E16883102994)

[Tech87]

47 minutes ago, gamer854 said:

Yeah, GPU prices are insane right now.

 

I did find a PC on newegg for about $50 over my budget, but I can just wait a little longer and be able to get that one. (Link: https://www.newegg.ca/abs-computer-technologies-ali416/p/N82E16883102994?Item=N82E16883102994)

That PC is a solid option. It depends on whether you think the extra $100+ tax is worth it for the GPU upgrade and slight cpu downgrade.

The 2060 will be approx 20-25% faster than the 1660 SUPER.

 

The 9700 and 10400 should essentially perform the same in game, with the 9700 pulling out slightly ahead due to its higher clock speeds.

 

The 9700 should also outperform the 10400 in processing tasks outside of games, due to increased clocks and 2 additional cores.

Likely resulting in approx a 10-15% increase over the 10400, according to benchmarks.

 

 

[gamer854]

1 hour ago, Tech87 said:

That PC is a solid option. It depends on whether you think the extra $100+ tax is worth it for the GPU upgrade and slight cpu downgrade.

The 2060 will be approx 20-25% faster than the 1660 SUPER.

 

The 9700 and 10400 should essentially perform the same in game, with the 9700 pulling out slightly ahead due to its higher clock speeds.

 

The 9700 should also outperform the 10400 in processing tasks outside of games, due to increased clocks and 2 additional cores.

Likely resulting in approx a 10-15% increase over the 10400, according to benchmarks.

 

 

Okay, thanks! I did create this build on PCPartPicker that looks pretty solid (it's out of budget, but again I can save). Could I get your opinion on it? Thanks you again! https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6RX2K3

[VEXICUS]

My recommendation...

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-11400 2.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($239.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($71.48 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Best Buy Canada) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: BitFenix Formula Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($59.88 @ Canada Computers) 
Custom: ASUS Dual Radeon RX 6600 8GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 Video Card DUAL-RX6600-8G and ASUS ROG STRIX B560-A GAMING WIFI LGA 1200 Intel B560 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard Combo ($808.99)
Total: $1290.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

[gamer854]

1 minute ago, VEXICUS said:

My recommendation...

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-11400 2.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($239.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($71.48 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Best Buy Canada) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: BitFenix Formula Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($59.88 @ Canada Computers) 
Custom: ASUS Dual Radeon RX 6600 8GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 Video Card DUAL-RX6600-8G and ASUS ROG STRIX B560-A GAMING WIFI LGA 1200 Intel B560 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard Combo ($808.99)
Total: $1290.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Thank You!

[gamer854]

25 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

My recommendation...

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-11400 2.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($239.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($71.48 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Best Buy Canada) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: BitFenix Formula Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($59.88 @ Canada Computers) 
Custom: ASUS Dual Radeon RX 6600 8GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 Video Card DUAL-RX6600-8G and ASUS ROG STRIX B560-A GAMING WIFI LGA 1200 Intel B560 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard Combo ($808.99)
Total: $1290.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

If you wouldn't mind me asking, do you know where I would purchase the GPU/Motherboard? TY!

[VEXICUS]

24 minutes ago, gamer854 said:

If you wouldn't mind me asking, do you know where I would purchase the GPU/Motherboard? TY!

Its available at Newegg Canada.

Link - https://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4434555

[Bombastinator]

There’s a whole list of specifically Canadian hardware retailers on PCpartPicker when you choose Canada as location afaik it works for more or less every country option though I understand the Indian one is a bit complex because there is so much mom&pop there.