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Look like miniPCIE/PCIE, for network card or old miniPCIE SSD? 🤔

Just now, Alireza said:

first of all

what board is this for?

explain a little

This is a port on my laptop used for wifi adaptor in my and i want to use it for sata drives 

Please help

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Look like miniPCIE/PCIE, for network card or old miniPCIE SSD? 🤔

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1 minute ago, xAcid9 said:

Look like miniPCIE/PCIE, for network card or old miniPCIE SSD? 🤔

Yes this is for network card 

But i want to use it for sata hard drive 

Multiple if possible

 

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Just now, Mayank Jindal said:

Yes this is for network card 

But i want to use it for sata hard drive 

Multiple if possible

 

Most of the time that's not possible. 

 

Can you give us the model of the WiFi card? Will help confirm the port. It looks more like an M.2 E Key connector than mPCIe, the keying is on the wrong side for mPCIE. 

 

6 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

Look like miniPCIE/PCIE, for network card or old miniPCIE SSD? 🤔

Don't think so, mPCIe has the keying on the other side. Looks like E Key M.2

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5 minutes ago, Mayank Jindal said:

Can this be of any help ???

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No, that's mPCIe to SATA. You don't have an mPCIe port (at least, not the one you've taken a picture of)

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3 minutes ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

No, that's mPCIe to SATA. You don't have an mPCIe port (at least, not the one you've taken a picture of)

Nope

 

 

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Is there any other way to add more sata ports to my laptop

I am trying to make a home nas using my old laptop.

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Is this a standard connector??

Maybe pcie or something

It is used tin my laptop to connect the doughter board which contains sata connectors , usb and audio chipsrt

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It doesn't feel like miniPcie connector. 

 

It looks more like  M.2 with E key...  probably this one : Lotes APCI0147  https://www.lotes.cc/en/product.php?act=view&id=405

 

I'm basically saying it could be that due to the pin count : there's 24 pin before the notch, 12 on each side, and there's 44 pins on the other side (22 on each side). 

 

Key E allows for up to 2 pci-e lanes, and USB connections, which is great for wireless cards as bluetooth often requires USB.

 

You can try searching for a m.2 key E to pci-e x1 riser / adapter board to get a single pci-e x1 lane out of the slot, and then get a pci-e x1 sata controller like the m.2 sata controller you posted above - if you're good with soldering iron you could literally solder the wires from the m.2 adapter/riser board to one of those m.2 sata controller, the pinouts are standard and available, so it's just a issue of matching the pins.

 

See pages 6,7 if curious: https://www.congatec.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Documents/Application_Notes/AN43_M.2_Pinout_Descriptions_and_Reference_Designs.pdf

 

 

Edit : such adapter seems would work to convert M.2 E key to a usb and a pci-e x1 port : https://www.ebay.com/itm/254249457711

 

You would have to desolder the pci-e slot and solder wires directly from the pci-e x1 slot to the pins on those m.2 sata controllers  or somehow figure out how to squeeze these into your laptop. 

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2 hours ago, mariushm said:

It doesn't feel like miniPcie connector. 

 

It looks more like  M.2 with E key...  probably this one : Lotes APCI0147  https://www.lotes.cc/en/product.php?act=view&id=405

 

I'm basically saying it could be that due to the pin count : there's 24 pin before the notch, 12 on each side, and there's 44 pins on the other side (22 on each side). 

 

Key E allows for up to 2 pci-e lanes, and USB connections, which is great for wireless cards as bluetooth often requires USB.

 

You can try searching for a m.2 key E to pci-e x1 riser / adapter board to get a single pci-e x1 lane out of the slot, and then get a pci-e x1 sata controller like the m.2 sata controller you posted above - if you're good with soldering iron you could literally solder the wires from the m.2 adapter/riser board to one of those m.2 sata controller, the pinouts are standard and available, so it's just a issue of matching the pins.

 

See pages 6,7 if curious: https://www.congatec.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Documents/Application_Notes/AN43_M.2_Pinout_Descriptions_and_Reference_Designs.pdf

 

 

Edit : such adapter seems would work to convert M.2 E key to a usb and a pci-e x1 port : https://www.ebay.com/itm/254249457711

 

You would have to desolder the pci-e slot and solder wires directly from the pci-e x1 slot to the pins on those m.2 sata controllers  or somehow figure out how to squeeze these into your laptop. 

Thanks man 

You can the best 

That is quite helpful

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2 hours ago, mariushm said:

It doesn't feel like miniPcie connector. 

 

It looks more like  M.2 with E key...  probably this one : Lotes APCI0147  https://www.lotes.cc/en/product.php?act=view&id=405

 

I'm basically saying it could be that due to the pin count : there's 24 pin before the notch, 12 on each side, and there's 44 pins on the other side (22 on each side). 

 

Key E allows for up to 2 pci-e lanes, and USB connections, which is great for wireless cards as bluetooth often requires USB.

 

You can try searching for a m.2 key E to pci-e x1 riser / adapter board to get a single pci-e x1 lane out of the slot, and then get a pci-e x1 sata controller like the m.2 sata controller you posted above - if you're good with soldering iron you could literally solder the wires from the m.2 adapter/riser board to one of those m.2 sata controller, the pinouts are standard and available, so it's just a issue of matching the pins.

 

See pages 6,7 if curious: https://www.congatec.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Documents/Application_Notes/AN43_M.2_Pinout_Descriptions_and_Reference_Designs.pdf

 

 

Edit : such adapter seems would work to convert M.2 E key to a usb and a pci-e x1 port : https://www.ebay.com/itm/254249457711

 

You would have to desolder the pci-e slot and solder wires directly from the pci-e x1 slot to the pins on those m.2 sata controllers  or somehow figure out how to squeeze these into your laptop. 

So can i conver the network card slot on my laptop to full speed sata(preferably multiple) ??

 

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2 hours ago, mariushm said:

It doesn't feel like miniPcie connector. 

 

It looks more like  M.2 with E key...  probably this one : Lotes APCI0147  https://www.lotes.cc/en/product.php?act=view&id=405

 

I'm basically saying it could be that due to the pin count : there's 24 pin before the notch, 12 on each side, and there's 44 pins on the other side (22 on each side). 

 

Key E allows for up to 2 pci-e lanes, and USB connections, which is great for wireless cards as bluetooth often requires USB.

 

You can try searching for a m.2 key E to pci-e x1 riser / adapter board to get a single pci-e x1 lane out of the slot, and then get a pci-e x1 sata controller like the m.2 sata controller you posted above - if you're good with soldering iron you could literally solder the wires from the m.2 adapter/riser board to one of those m.2 sata controller, the pinouts are standard and available, so it's just a issue of matching the pins.

 

See pages 6,7 if curious: https://www.congatec.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Documents/Application_Notes/AN43_M.2_Pinout_Descriptions_and_Reference_Designs.pdf

 

 

Edit : such adapter seems would work to convert M.2 E key to a usb and a pci-e x1 port : https://www.ebay.com/itm/254249457711

 

You would have to desolder the pci-e slot and solder wires directly from the pci-e x1 slot to the pins on those m.2 sata controllers  or somehow figure out how to squeeze these into your laptop. 

https://www.eassymall.com/product/ngff-m-2-key-m-to-key-a-e-extension-cable-ngff-adapter-card

 

Will this expose the pcie lane or sata ?

 

I think it's pcie as there is no chip on the pcb 

 

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That would be a m.2 e key to  nvme pci-e x1 or x2 SSD ...  

 

A M.2 nvme SSD has a controller on it which connects to the computer using the pci-e lanes in the M.2 connector, up to 4 lanes. Because of this, you could use basic adapters to connect a nvme SSD directly to a regular pci-e slot for example.

 

The M.2 Key E connector you have contains 1 or 2 pci-e lanes and a usb connection and possibly other things (depends on the manufacturer of the motherboard).

In your case, if the laptop manufacturer only put one pci-e lane in the slot (because a wireless card doesn't need two), then you get only one pci-e lane.

 

Also, keep in mind that the laptop may have a list of wireless cards or devices permitted in that connector and the bios may reject any other pci-e device that isn't "whitelisted".  It's unlikely, but it's not unheard of.

Also, other problems could be insufficient power delivery ... for example, a nvme SSD may use up to 5-8 watts when writing a lot of data to the memory, but the laptop may only be capable of giving 2-3 watts to a device plugged in that connector. You'd have to try your luck and see if it works.

 

An M.2 SATA SSD would not work, because the M.2 connector on the board doesn't have the sata wires as far as I can tell. 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, mariushm said:

That would be a m.2 e key to  nvme pci-e x1 or x2 SSD ...  

 

A M.2 nvme SSD has a controller on it which connects to the computer using the pci-e lanes in the M.2 connector, up to 4 lanes. Because of this, you could use basic adapters to connect a nvme SSD directly to a regular pci-e slot for example.

 

The M.2 Key E connector you have contains 1 or 2 pci-e lanes and a usb connection and possibly other things (depends on the manufacturer of the motherboard).

In your case, if the laptop manufacturer only put one pci-e lane in the slot (because a wireless card doesn't need two), then you get only one pci-e lane.

 

Also, keep in mind that the laptop may have a list of wireless cards or devices permitted in that connector and the bios may reject any other pci-e device that isn't "whitelisted".  It's unlikely, but it's not unheard of.

Also, other problems could be insufficient power delivery ... for example, a nvme SSD may use up to 5-8 watts when writing a lot of data to the memory, but the laptop may only be capable of giving 2-3 watts to a device plugged in that connector. You'd have to try your luck and see if it works.

 

An M.2 SATA SSD would not work, because the M.2 connector on the board doesn't have the sata wires as far as I can tell. 

 

 

Thankyou sir 

Can I check in windows that how many lanes does the post has or physical maybe?

 

And 

If I conver the m.2 to sata and use it only for data will it work ?

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Generally the "wifi chip slot" is an M.2 WWAN Socket 2 connector. If this is the slot it will have a B+M keyed slot which could potentially take storage. 

Now weather there is a B+M to SATA adapter I dont know, let alone if that slot even supports SATA. I dont think it will work. 

 

You could use USB to SATA adaptors if you have a couple of free SATA ports. 

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7 hours ago, Jarsky said:

Generally the "wifi chip slot" is an M.2 WWAN Socket 2 connector. If this is the slot it will have a B+M keyed slot which could potentially take storage. 

Now weather there is a B+M to SATA adapter I dont know, let alone if that slot even supports SATA. I dont think it will work. 

 

You could use USB to SATA adaptors if you have a couple of free SATA ports. 

Thankyou sir

Yup I could use usb to sata adaptor 

But it won't be that fast or reliabile 

I am trying to build a home nas from that laptop so i need both speed and reliability

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13 hours ago, Mayank Jindal said:

Thankyou sir 

Can I check in windows that how many lanes does the post has or physical maybe?

 

And 

If I conver the m.2 to sata and use it only for data will it work ?

Guys see what i found 

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