Venting Outside

[BoDyBaG2224]

In what country do you hail from? It looks like English, but capitilization rules are nonexistent and "You're" is spelled oddly. Maybe a language that focuses on spoken word and culls grammatical or printed rules.

 

Edit, Fahrenheit also seems to be nispelled, but written in such a way that it would be pronounced correctly. Are you Japanese?

 

 

 

Only if, by some freak accident, my vent fan starts spinning backwards and the outside temperature exceeds the temperature of the computer.

 

 

 

Why solve a problem, when you can just make it someone else's problem?

 

It isn't becoming someone else's problem.

 

Take a hot shower with the door open and then take a hot shower with the door closed. In the closed door case the room will feel quite warm and if you were to keep the door closed it would stay warm for a long time. Now when you open the door you allow the air to reach an equilibrium state, the heat gets dissipated across a large area. Does the rest of the house become close to the same temperature as the bathroom? No. If you were to take the same shower with the door open, the bathroom will still be warm, albeit less than the closed door scenario and rest of the house will be only slightly warmer than before (and by the rest of the house I mean the general vicinity of the bathroom, after a few feet there won't be a temperature difference).

 

That is what I'm saying about moving the air out of the room and allowing it to be in contact with cooler air and allowing them to equalize.  Granted if the area outside of the room you are is a small hallway, this effect won't be as prominent.

 

That is what I'm saying here

[loccilucas]

Why don't you put the tube connected to the vent outside, then create a cover facing downwards (quite big) so that no rain can get into it.

[xnamkcor]

Why don't you put the tube connected to the vent outside, then create a cover facing downwards (quite big) so that no rain can get into it.

 

Once a year we get rain and winds at the same time. So I'd have to stop using it for months just to be sure it doesn't blow rain into the tube.

 

 

It isn't becoming someone else's problem.

 

Take a hot shower with the door open and then take a hot shower with the door closed. In the closed door case the room will feel quite warm and if you were to keep the door closed it would stay warm for a long time. Now when you open the door you allow the air to reach an equilibrium state, the heat gets dissipated across a large area. Does the rest of the house become close to the same temperature as the bathroom? No. If you were to take the same shower with the door open, the bathroom will still be warm, albeit less than the closed door scenario and rest of the house will be only slightly warmer than before (and by the rest of the house I mean the general vicinity of the bathroom, after a few feet there won't be a temperature difference).

 

That is what I'm saying about moving the air out of the room and allowing it to be in contact with cooler air and allowing them to equalize.  Granted if the area outside of the room you are is a small hallway, this effect won't be as prominent.

 

That is what I'm saying here

 

No, you open the bathroom window or use the pre-installed vent because the air from a hot shower is humid and can cause mold. So you would not just let it into the rest of the house. But that is a bad example.

 

Let's assume I don't want to raise the temperature of the rest of the house just to make me feel better.

[BoDyBaG2224]

Once a year we get rain and winds at the same time. So I'd have to stop using it for months just to be sure it doesn't blow rain into the tube.

 

 

 

No, you open the bathroom window or use the pre-installed vent because the air from a hot shower is humid and can cause mold. So you would not just let it into the rest of the house. But that is a bad example.

 

Let's assume I don't want to raise the temperature of the rest of the house just to make me feel better.

 

Again you are missing the point, you aren't raising the temperature by a tangible amount, if you throw hot water into a pool the temperature increases but it is so small you can't feel it.  That is what circulating the air out of the room would do.

 

If you take your computer and use it in a larger room notice how the ambient air temperature will not increase or if it does increase the effects will take longer. Use the computer in a gymnasium and the heating effects are negligible.  I can't make this any more clear. It is normally 80 to 82 degrees in my house, the computer room will generally be 2 to 4 degrees warmer, I have a fan near my computer that blows the air around the computer towards the door of the room. The effect of this is that I help get the air into a larger volume of cooler air where it is naturally going to go anyway because of the pressure differential between the warmer computer room and the cooler house.  There is so much more cooler air that when hot and cold air meet the equilibrium temperature increase will be so small that it can't be felt.

 

I'm just offering the only real practical solution aside from just buying a small AC and sticking it the window, any sort of venting contraption will not work for a number of reasons.

[xnamkcor]

It is normally 80 to 82 degrees in my house

Good for you.

 

I'm just offering the only real practical solution aside from just buying a small AC and sticking it the window.

That's odd, because plenty of other people have offered practical solutions that aren't yours.

 

Any sort of venting contraption will not work for a number of reasons.

True, Zero is a number.

[skywake]

I feel your pain, it gets fairly hot down here in Aussieland so on a hot day you really don't feel like turning on your machine. During our most recent summer there were days where it went from 40C in the day (104F) and only dropped to 30C at night (86F). You could fairly easily keep the inside of the house at a reasonable ~25C (77F) by shutting the blinds, windows, doors and turning on ceiling fans and aircon. When it's that hot and the inside of the house is that much cooler even opening the window a crack is like turning on a room heater. My guess would be that unless you were particularly good with the seal you'd end up letting more heat in than it'd be worth.

 

The way I see it there are a few options:
- Move the computer into a larger room

- Try to get components with lower power consumption in your next build

- buy an aircon or a good fan to move the hot air out of the room

- if you must use this vent idea remember hot air rises, vent it into the roof... somehow. Attach it to an exhaust fan maybe? 

[loccilucas]

I mean, get a tube from the pc to outside with the fan half way in the tube, therefore it will suck all the air out but rain won't be able to get in as rain can't climb upwards.

[xnamkcor]

I mean, get a tube from the pc to outside with the fan half way in the tube, therefore it will suck all the air out but rain won't be able to get in as rain can't climb upwards.

 

Yeah, how could rain go any direction but down? That'd be crazy.

[loccilucas]

Yeah, how could rain go any direction but down? That'd be crazy.

Ok well figure it out yourself as everyone else's ideas just arn't good enough, and next time you ask for help I wouldn't be so rude and sarcastic, because otherwise people won't want to help you, crazy right?

[xnamkcor]

Ok well figure it out yourself as everyone else's ideas just arn't good enough, and next time you ask for help I wouldn't be so rude and sarcastic, because otherwise people won't want to help you, crazy right?

Deny everything. Make counter-accusations.

[BismarckSD]

I measured the top of the computer, resized a box, and taped a small flap around the diameter of the inside, for it to rest on.  I had a spare 200mm fan laying around, and placed that at the top of the box, pushing air into the pipe.  majority of the heat is sent out the window.  I bought an aftermarket 12vdc adapter to power the 200mm fan.

[mon1ka]

1 minute ago, BismarckSD said:

I measured the top of the computer, resized a box, and taped a small flap around the diameter of the inside, for it to rest on.  I had a spare 200mm fan laying around, and placed that at the top of the box, pushing air into the pipe.  majority of the heat is sent out the window.  I bought an aftermarket 12vdc adapter to power the 200mm fan.

this is the most obscure tech forum thing i have ever seen.