Improving my pc !

[Adrian19911991]

Budget (including currency): 600£

Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Battlefield 2042, Fifa 22

Other details : I bought my pc in 2018 : motherboard 

ASUS PRIME Intel Coffee Lake H310M-A R2.0 Micro ATX Motherboard

 

Cpu : I3-8350k 4.00GHz , Gpu: NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1060 6gb , RAM: 8gb , CPU Cooler : Arctic Alpine 12 CO , Monitor : HP24o Full HD (1080p) 1920 x 1080 at 60 Hz . What should I change to run newer games like Battlefield 2042 , Cod Warzone ? I was thinking to buy the Intel Core i9-9900KF 8 Cores 5.0 GHz Turbo Unlocked LGA1151 95W and Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 2666 (PC4-21300) C16 1.2V - CMK16GX4M2Z2666C16 ! What u guys think ? Any help would be great , thank you very much !

 

[jaslion]

Your board WILL NOT HANDLE A i9. Flat out not happening.

 

What psu do you have? Model not just wattage. Also what speed does your ram run at? Is it a 2x4gb kit?

 

You are indeed correct that your i3 is very much so the issue/going to be the issue here for new games.

 

You can easily fit a ryzen 3600 or intel i5 10400 + board + more ram in your budget.

[Adrian19911991]

5 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Your board WILL NOT HANDLE A i9. Flat out not happening.

 

What psu do you have? Model not just wattage. Also what speed does your ram run at? Is it a 2x4gb kit?

 

You are indeed correct that your i3 is very much so the issue/going to be the issue here for new games.

 

You can easily fit a ryzen 3600 or intel i5 10400 + board + more ram in your budget.

Psu is Evga 500w 

Ram runs at 2400 speed and yes 2x4bg kit

Can u help me out ? 

[jaslion]

2 minutes ago, Adrian19911991 said:

Psu is Evga 500w 

Ram runs at 2400 speed and yes 2x4bg kit

Can u help me out ? 

What evga 500w? They have many a lot of em are trash others are ok or good. Once you tell me that I can make you a parts list. Also I still need to know your case.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NBVm68

Maybe something like this?

 

I think i went overkill with the ram so if you dont need 32gb you can save ~50£ if you get 16gb 3200 cl16 vengeance lpx rams

 

Since you are only using a gtx 1060 your psu should be fine, though if you do cut the ram to 16gb might aswell upgrade the psu to an 850w unit

[Adrian19911991]

2 minutes ago, jaslion said:

What evga 500w? They have many a lot of em are trash others are ok or good. Once you tell me that I can make you a parts list. Also I still need to know your case.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-WHITE-Power-Supply-100-W1-0500-K3/dp/B01E4YRP8W/ref=asc_df_B01E4YRP8W/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=231989761408&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1107445292972795912&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007080&hvtargid=pla-386397098849&psc=1&th=1&psc=1 and the case https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-MasterBox-Customisable-MCW-L3S3-KGNN-00/dp/B076NQXDZH/ref=sr_1_33?crid=1Y05AFSCGFEJI&dchild=1&keywords=cooler+master+case&qid=1632307834&s=computers&sprefix=coolesr+mast%2Ccomputers%2C162&sr=1-33

[jaslion]

7 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NBVm68

Maybe something like this?

 

I think i went overkill with the ram so if you dont need 32gb you can save ~50£ if you get 16gb 3200 cl16 vengeance lpx rams

 

Since you are only using a gtx 1060 your psu should be fine, though if you do cut the ram to 16gb might aswell upgrade the psu to an 850w unit

What? One of the worst b550 boards + a underpowered cooler for a 5800x? That is just asking for trouble.

[Adrian19911991]

8 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NBVm68

Maybe something like this?

 

I think i went overkill with the ram so if you dont need 32gb you can save ~50£ if you get 16gb 3200 cl16 vengeance lpx rams

 

Since you are only using a gtx 1060 your psu should be fine, though if you do cut the ram to 16gb might aswell upgrade the psu to an 850w unit

It looks really good but it will run the latest games like Battlefield 2042 ? my psu is evga 500w and I have this case https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-MasterBox-Customisable-MCW-L3S3-KGNN-00/dp/B076NQXDZH/ref=sr_1_33?crid=1Y05AFSCGFEJI&dchild=1&keywords=cooler+master+case&qid=1632307834&s=computers&sprefix=coolesr+mast%2Ccomputers%2C162&sr=1-33 do u think its good for the motherboard u sented me ? And what about an I9 proccesor ?

[jaslion]

4 minutes ago, Adrian19911991 said:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-WHITE-Power-Supply-100-W1-0500-K3/dp/B01E4YRP8W/ref=asc_df_B01E4YRP8W/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=231989761408&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1107445292972795912&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007080&hvtargid=pla-386397098849&psc=1&th=1&psc=1 and the case https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-MasterBox-Customisable-MCW-L3S3-KGNN-00/dp/B076NQXDZH/ref=sr_1_33?crid=1Y05AFSCGFEJI&dchild=1&keywords=cooler+master+case&qid=1632307834&s=computers&sprefix=coolesr+mast%2Ccomputers%2C162&sr=1-33

Alrighty so this is what I got:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/K32c9N

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£151.04 @ Infinite Computing)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler  (£38.97 @ Clove Technology)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B560-PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  (£118.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£65.94 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£91.44 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £466.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-09-22 11:56 BST+0100

 

Good cpu cheap too great for gaming feel free to get something better or 11th gen

Cooler is in there JUST in case you don't have mounting hardware for the new platform

Board is solid nothing special

Ram is good

Psu is on sale rn and an excellent replacement as the evga w1 is a shitty psu and I'd not trust it to be pushed further.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

Just now, jaslion said:

What? One of the worst b550 boards + a underpowered cooler for a 5800x? That is just asking for trouble.

Its not like op is even ocing anyways

 

should i just swap the cooler for a se 224 xt?

 

And is a board like a b550 pro vdh any better than the ds3h?

 

And im pretty sure that the title for worst board goes to the asrock hdv boards

[jaslion]

1 minute ago, Adrian19911991 said:

It looks really good but it will run the latest games like Battlefield 2042 ? my psu is evga 500w and I have this case https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-MasterBox-Customisable-MCW-L3S3-KGNN-00/dp/B076NQXDZH/ref=sr_1_33?crid=1Y05AFSCGFEJI&dchild=1&keywords=cooler+master+case&qid=1632307834&s=computers&sprefix=coolesr+mast%2Ccomputers%2C162&sr=1-33 do u think its good for the motherboard u sented me ? And what about an I9 proccesor ?

Don't get this it's really bad the board does NOT handle a 5800x and the cooler is NOT AT ALL capable of cooling a 5800x

[jaslion]

Just now, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Its not like op is even ocing anyways

 

should i just swap the cooler for a se 224 xt?

 

And is a board like a b550 pro vdh any better than the ds3h?

 

And im pretty sure that the title for worst board goes to the asrock hdv boards

That board can't handle 8 cores it's too bad. The 5800x demands over hyper 212 class coolers. Pro vdh has the same issue.

[Somerandomtechyboi]

1 minute ago, jaslion said:

That board can't handle 8 cores it's too bad. The 5800x demands over hyper 212 class coolers. Pro vdh has the same issue.

Are you talking about the board not being optimal for 8 core cpus?

 

That would make sense since its basically a 5 phase for the cpu but then again if you dont turn on pbo then you prob wont run into any problems, and w pbo turned off temps will prob be alot cooler

 

Pretty much one of the best board in the 80£ price range since the vdh is the same thing and the b550m aorus elite has the same vrm from the looks of it, b550a pro is only 20£ more so prob a good idea to get that instead

 

H212 is decent but for 40£ is wayyy overpriced, might aswell just get a noctua at that point and enjoy the quality + customer support

[Adrian19911991]

10 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Alrighty so this is what I got:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/K32c9N

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£151.04 @ Infinite Computing)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler  (£38.97 @ Clove Technology)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B560-PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  (£118.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£65.94 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£91.44 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £466.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-09-22 11:56 BST+0100

 

Good cpu cheap too great for gaming feel free to get something better or 11th gen

Cooler is in there JUST in case you don't have mounting hardware for the new platform

Board is solid nothing special

Ram is good

Psu is on sale rn and an excellent replacement as the evga w1 is a shitty psu and I'd not trust it to be pushed further.

If I change ur cpu with Intel Core i9-9900k 3.6GHz 8-core processor , do I have to make any other changes ? like mother board ? or cpu cooler , ram , psu ?

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[jaslion]

Just now, Adrian19911991 said:

If I change ur cpu with Intel Core i9-9900k 3.6GHz 8-core processor , do I have to make any other changes ? like mother board ? or cpu cooler , ram , psu ?

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Yes a a lot of changes as the 9900k is older by now and more expensive than a 10700f that is better. The board and cooler will NOT work with the 9900k.

[jaslion]

3 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Are you talking about the board not being optimal for 8 core cpus?

 

That would make sense since its basically a 5 phase for the cpu but then again if you dont turn on pbo then you prob wont run into any problems, and w pbo turned off temps will prob be alot cooler

 

Pretty much one of the best board in the 80£ price range since the vdh is the same thing and the b550m aorus elite has the same vrm from the looks of it, b550a pro is only 20£ more so prob a good idea to get that instead

 

H212 is decent but for 40£ is wayyy overpriced, might aswell just get a noctua at that point and enjoy the quality + customer support

The 5800x is simply put not what they should go for in this budget as they have too much other stuff that needs a upgrade too to do this safely. I can NOT recommend the a 5800x on something less than a b550 A-pro the absolute minimum board I recommend for it.

 

Yeah the 212 isn't a good price but it's always available hence why I say a 212 class cooler. Which is NOT applicable for a 5800x.

 

Since op NEEDS a new cpu, board, more ram and psu (probably cooler too) the 5800x is NOT what they should get as there is a lot better value parts.

[Adrian19911991]

39 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Alrighty so this is what I got:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/K32c9N

CPU: Intel Core i5-10400F 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£151.04 @ Infinite Computing)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler  (£38.97 @ Clove Technology)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B560-PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  (£118.99 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (£65.94 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£91.44 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £466.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-09-22 11:56 BST+0100

 

Good cpu cheap too great for gaming feel free to get something better or 11th gen

Cooler is in there JUST in case you don't have mounting hardware for the new platform

Board is solid nothing special

Ram is good

Psu is on sale rn and an excellent replacement as the evga w1 i s a shitty psu and I'd not trust it to be pushed further.

So , I don`t have to change my case for the parts u told me to buy ? 

But tell me 100% if will battlefield 2042 will work on this setup with my geforce 1060 6gb ? I`m thinking to buy the items u told me ...

[Somerandomtechyboi]

22 minutes ago, jaslion said:

The 5800x is simply put not what they should go for in this budget as they have too much other stuff that needs a upgrade too to do this safely.

Im gonna assume that "safely" is reffering to hassle free, cause its not like the b550 ds3h has such garbage vrms that it would literally catch fire, maybe a b550m hdv could catch fire

 

In that case i do see your point, cause if ops psu is too weak they might experience shutdows or the psu just dies

 

Board wise if op did decide to turn on pbo the boards vrms may get pretty hot so the board will have a shorter life (assuming vrms reach above 105c)

 

Considering that going for slightly more expensive parts can give op less of a hassle then id say its worth it to just go safe, buy a better psu, and a better board

[Rameares]

I might be missing some thing but when the I3-10100F or 10105F are so close to the top tier CPU's and they are half the price of a i5 and a 3rd of the price of the cheapest ryzen 5000. Why would anyone need anything more for a gamming set up?

 

For just over £600

you could get a

I3-10105F £75

A H5XX mother board (check it supports 10th and 11th gen) £65

2 x8 GB 3200MHz Ram kit £55

&

a RX 6600 XT £430

 

Your most budget friendly option is a i5-8XXX and an extra 8GB of RAM (try to match speed and timings.)

[Herman Mcpootis]

56 minutes ago, jaslion said:

That board can't handle 8 cores it's too bad. The 5800x demands over hyper 212 class coolers. Pro vdh has the same issue.

the pro-VDH is fine with the 5800X:

 

[jaslion]

1 minute ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

the pro-VDH is fine with the 5800X:

 

Oh wow they really improved it over last gen then