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REPO
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Mobo went poo last night and I have a 9900KF as of now.

 

The mobo for a Z390 is almost same money as a Z590

 

Do I stay with the 9900, or is there something intel has out that is significantly better to justify the upgrade,

 

or

 

Do we go AMD. 

 

Alot of things I read say the 5600X in most cases, will smack around a intel??? 

I am a ride or die intel guy so I favor them out of the gate, as that is what I have used for gaming since 2005, but am open since money is all of our friends, even more now as I get older HAHA

 

Not looking to spend 800+ on a CPU!

 

Thank you all for your help!

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5600X is good, but if you just need a board why not replace it?

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What is the goal here? You will no matter how you answer any other questions have to decide how much money you are willing to burn for a few more FPS at most. 

 

The 9900KF is still very new and you will undoubtedly benchmark better with e.g. an 10900K but you also undoubtedly will not notice any real world differencu while using the system, so is that worth 500+ bucks to you?

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2 minutes ago, Benji said:

What they say is pretty much bullshit because the 9900KF still performs perfectly fine, so a new motherboard it is. Why upgrade the platform? That doesn't make sense. Is it a furnace? Yes, but that wasn't a problem for you before, so just go for another motherboard. Any platform change would cost more and not net you the "amazing" performance increases that you might have heard of.

That was my thought too when I looked at the speeds everyone is getting on the new stuff.  Seemed like less than 10% for a ton of money was average

 

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performance wise it's gonna be a sidegrade at best, not worth the extra you'll have to pay. just replace it with a decent enough board.

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1 minute ago, GER_T4IGA said:

What is the goal here? You will no matter how you answer any other questions have to decide how much money you are willing to burn for a few more FPS at most. 

 

The 9900KF is still very new and you will undoubtedly benchmark better with e.g. an 10900K but you also undoubtedly will not notice any real world differencu while using the system, so is that worth 500+ bucks to you?

Just making sure I am not throwing good money at bad choices.

IE, product X is better now and for the future like the 9900 was, so spend the money and buy it, or is the 9900 still a fighter and nothing has really came out to justify the cost upgrade and stay with it and just get a new mobo

 

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2 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

performance wise it's gonna be a sidegrade at best, not worth the extra you'll have to pay. just replace it with a decent enough board.

Seems to be the common trend answer lol.  Thank you!

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9900KF is a solid CPU still, we're kind of at the soft cap for CPUs at this point. Gains are much smaller than they were years ago.

 

Buy a Z390 board and enjoy the 9900KF for at least another 2-3 years easy.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

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Just now, Dedayog said:

9900KF is a solid CPU still, we're kind of at the soft cap for CPUs at this point. Gains are much smaller than they were years ago.

 

Buy a Z390 board and enjoy the 9900KF for at least another 2-3 years easy.

Awesome, seems to be the common answer for sure!!!   Thank you all for the help!

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3 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

9900KF is a solid CPU still, we're kind of at the soft cap for CPUs at this point. Gains are much smaller than they were years ago.

 

Buy a Z390 board and enjoy the 9900KF for at least another 2-3 years easy.

Aorus and ROG still the best MOBO out?

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Unless you need to run the kind of task where you leave the computer to do it's thing for hours your not going to benefit from the performance increase. If you were to look at an upgrade would it not be wise to wait for AMD's next socket and hope they support it as long as they have AM4.

 

These 10 or 20% performance boosts matter to industry where it results in more productivity for a home system it's not worth it.

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Just now, REPO said:

Aorus and ROG still the best MOBO out?

Think so. My Gaming 5 is z370 is running the 9900K at 5.1Ghz without issue.  I am assuming their z390's are just as stout relatively.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx : AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3d / MSI 6900xt Gaming X Trio / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 32GB / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Platinum Pro 850 / EK-AIO 360 Basic / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / AOC AGON 35" 3440x1440 100Hz / Mackie CR5BT / Corsair Virtuoso SE / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502

 

7800X3D - PBO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, 18286 C23 multi, 1779 C23 single

 

Emma : i9 9900K @5.1Ghz - Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti - Gigabyte AORUS Z370 Gaming 5 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360mm - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

Raven: AMD Ryzen 5 5600x3d - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200Mhz - XFX Radeon RX6650XT - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - TP-Link AC600 USB Wifi - Gigabyte GP-P450B PSU -  Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L -  Samsung 27" 1080p

 

Plex : AMD Ryzen 5 5600 - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 2400Mhz - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + WD Red NAS 4TBx2 - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 - ASUS Prime AP201 - Spectre 24" 1080p

 

Steam Deck 512GB OLED

 

OnePlus: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green

OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

 

Other Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

- Lenovo 720S Touch 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400MHz, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1050Ti, 4K touchscreen

- MSI GF62 15.6" - i7 7700HQ, 16GB RAM 2400 MHz, 256GB NVMe SSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, 1050Ti

- Ubiquiti Amplifi HD mesh wifi

 

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To echo everyone here, just replace what broke.

 

For stock operation, you don't need either an amazing motherboard or cooler for a 9900k. Wife has a mid-range Gigabyte Z390M Gaming and a Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi. Handles it fine.

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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I would replace the dead board with a sweet oc board to run the shit out of that sweet Intel cpu because that’s what it was made for..

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