Adjustments/Improvements Needed!!

[ketchupspill]

Budget (including currency): 2500 CAD

Country:  canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: gaming (preferably 1440p 60 for rpgs, 144 for fps games), schoolwork (probably not that load-heavy) , basic video rendering and music editing

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

current part list

 https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/nKb94d

 

looking for maybe a different mobo? parts i think all work fine, does the 5600x need a cooler?

are there any brands on that list whose product may not have a great reputation?

not much else i think, thanks for any help!

[Slottr]

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/7G7Kz7

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($356.75 @ shopRBC)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($119.50 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($206.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($259.99 @ Corsair)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($279.00 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card
Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic ATX Full Tower Case  ($184.25 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($156.50 @ Vuugo)
Monitor: Gigabyte G27Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($379.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1942.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-08-31 15:01 EDT-0400

 

 

No it doesn't NEED a 3rd party cooler, but it'll help. I would change case to accommodate an air cooler instead, but its personal preference.

 

1 2TB SSD is cheaper than what you had, and I highly doubt you need the ROG board- so I swapped both out for something much cheaper.

[Jonathan Lee]

You can also consider going intel. They current have really good value CPU's at the moment, although they are a little slower, probably won't notice without benchmarks. Here's at example with what you can go with (didn't include GPU, just try your best to find one decently price):

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-10700F 2.9 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($334.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen 5 Black Edition 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  ($80.00 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B560 TORPEDO ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($189.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($179.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Storage: Silicon Power A80 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($139.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case: MSI MAG FORGE 100R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Memory Express) 
Power Supply: MSI 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $1154.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-08-31 16:09 EDT-0400

 

If you're planning to stick with 5600X, here are some answers to your questions:

 

1 hour ago, ketchupspill said:

looking for maybe a different mobo?

Mobo is overkill for the 5600X, generally rule of thumb is to have your mobo about 50% the price of CPU. Exceptions are the 10400, ryzen 3's and i3's cause it's super cheap. You can safely go with any of the following:

MSI MAG B550M BAZOOKA

Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO

MSI B550-A PRO

Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING

1 hour ago, ketchupspill said:

does the 5600x need a cooler?

not really, but a 3rd party cooler can give you better temps and will be quieter.

[Dr0idGh0sT]

1 hour ago, ketchupspill said:

are there any brands on that list whose product may not have a great reputation?

Yes, That's 970 Evo Plus 

For that price range, I'm absolutely sure you can fit better CPU there...

 

 

[ketchupspill]

5 hours ago, Slottr said:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/7G7Kz7

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($356.75 @ shopRBC)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($119.50 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($206.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($259.99 @ Corsair)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($279.00 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card
Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic ATX Full Tower Case  ($184.25 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($156.50 @ Vuugo)
Monitor: Gigabyte G27Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($379.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1942.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-08-31 15:01 EDT-0400

 

 

No it doesn't NEED a 3rd party cooler, but it'll help. I would change case to accommodate an air cooler instead, but its personal preference.

 

1 2TB SSD is cheaper than what you had, and I highly doubt you need the ROG board- so I swapped both out for something much cheaper.

it all seems good to me (the untrained eye), but does the b550 need a .. bios.. update? i think?

 

not sure how that works, does it require much technical know how?

 

[ketchupspill]

3 hours ago, Jonathan Lee said:

You can also consider going intel. They current have really good value CPU's at the moment, although they are a little slower, probably won't notice without benchmarks. Here's at example with what you can go with (didn't include GPU, just try your best to find one decently price):

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-10700F 2.9 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($334.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen 5 Black Edition 66.47 CFM CPU Cooler  ($80.00 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B560 TORPEDO ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($189.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($179.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Storage: Silicon Power A80 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($139.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Case: MSI MAG FORGE 100R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Memory Express) 
Power Supply: MSI 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $1154.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-08-31 16:09 EDT-0400

 

If you're planning to stick with 5600X, here are some answers to your questions:

 

Mobo is overkill for the 5600X, generally rule of thumb is to have your mobo about 50% the price of CPU. Exceptions are the 10400, ryzen 3's and i3's cause it's super cheap. You can safely go with any of the following:

MSI MAG B550M BAZOOKA

Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO

MSI B550-A PRO

Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING

not really, but a 3rd party cooler can give you better temps and will be quieter.

don't really know how changing between amd/intel affects the pc at all since this is my first time, so i suppose this is a good idea too! thanks!!

[Slottr]

17 minutes ago, ketchupspill said:

it all seems good to me (the untrained eye), but does the b550 need a .. bios.. update? i think?

 

not sure how that works, does it require much technical know how?

 

I'd be surprised if it did. The 5xxx chips have been out for a good while.

[ketchupspill]

Just now, Slottr said:

I'd be surprised if it did. The 5xxx chips have been out for a good while.

hmmok ok, so there wouldn't be much finagling required, which is great.

 

what were you saying about changing the case to one for air cooling? is the lian li desigend for water cooling?

 

[Jonathan Lee]

14 minutes ago, ketchupspill said:

b550 need a .. bios.. update? i think?

This depends now. On initial launch of Ryzen 5000 series, all B550 boards needed a BIOS update to run the new CPU's. Now that it's been out for awhile there are boards out there that already have the most up to date BIOS. Look for the Ryzen 5000 ready label on motherboards to confirm. A lot of B550 boards (at least good ones) have a BIOS flashback feature which allows you to update the BIOS without a supported CPU. You check out this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aBiTr6tpcs&ab_channel=GregSalazar

 

17 minutes ago, ketchupspill said:

don't really know how changing between amd/intel affects the pc at all since this is my first time, so i suppose this is a good idea too! thanks!!

It's more like two different flavors of ice cream. Both do good and you pick what you like best. I typically look for best value CPU regardless of brand. Use to be AMD Ryzen, but recently Intel 10th gen have been looking better. At the end of the day, a CPU is a CPU regardless of brand.

[Slottr]

1 minute ago, ketchupspill said:

hmmok ok, so there wouldn't be much finagling required, which is great.

 

what were you saying about changing the case to one for air cooling? is the lian li desigend for water cooling?

 

It has a weird height that limits you off from a lot of air coolers if you wanted an air cooler.

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($498.50 @ Vuugo) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 A-RGB 48.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($179.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($169.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($174.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($259.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card 
Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic ATX Full Tower Case  ($184.25 @ Vuugo) 
Power Supply: BitFenix Whisper M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Monitor: Gigabyte G27Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($379.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $1967.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-08-31 20:44 EDT-0400

[ketchupspill]

1 hour ago, Slottr said:

It has a weird height that limits you off from a lot of air coolers if you wanted an air cooler.

ohh then what might be a better case? anything from mid to full size tower works for me!

 

also, since im defo planning a air cooled only (not about to crash something i built for the first time) can you explain how intake/outtake works and how people set that up?

[ketchupspill]

48 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($498.50 @ Vuugo) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 A-RGB 48.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($179.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($169.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($174.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($259.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card 
Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic ATX Full Tower Case  ($184.25 @ Vuugo) 
Power Supply: BitFenix Whisper M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Monitor: Gigabyte G27Q 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($379.98 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $1967.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-08-31 20:44 EDT-0400

thanks for the suggestions, but first : i have no idea how to do water cooling (dead) second, ummmm, since it's my first time im not sure how trustable brands ive never heard of are (bitfenix??? silicon power what is that????)

 

[Slottr]

8 minutes ago, ketchupspill said:

thanks for the suggestions, but first : i have no idea how to do water cooling (dead) second, ummmm, since it's my first time im not sure how trustable brands ive never heard of are (bitfenix??? silicon power what is that????)

 

AIOs aren't the same as custom water cooling. It's an all in one unit you just mount to the board. I prefer air myself.

 

Don't look at brands moreover the model. Are you taking about case brands? 

[Herman Mcpootis]

36 minutes ago, ketchupspill said:

second, ummmm, since it's my first time im not sure how trustable brands ive never heard of are

 

The ram chips themselves mostly just come from the same three companies, everyone else buys them and slaps their name on it. The whisper M is made by the same company as the one that made the RM and is better built.

[ketchupspill]

1 hour ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

The ram chips themselves mostly just come from the same three companies, everyone else buys them and slaps their name on it. The whisper M is made by the same company as the one that made the RM and is better built.

 

2 hours ago, Slottr said:

AIOs aren't the same as custom water cooling. It's an all in one unit you just mount to the board. I prefer air myself.

 

Don't look at brands moreover the model. Are you taking about case brands? 

soooo 

 

i need a model that is good for air cooling i suppose, and if the first reply there is the case, then as long as the actual hardware im getting is the same as the others then the brand won't matter that much i suppose and it'll be really good for usage!

[Slottr]

47 minutes ago, ketchupspill said:

 

soooo 

 

i need a model that is good for air cooling i suppose, and if the first reply there is the case, then as long as the actual hardware im getting is the same as the others then the brand won't matter that much i suppose and it'll be really good for usage!

Whisper M is a power supply.

 

Case wise: Look at a P400A, Meshify C, 4000D Airflow, etc

[ketchupspill]

14 hours ago, Slottr said:

Whisper M is a power supply.

 

Case wise: Look at a P400A, Meshify C, 4000D Airflow, etc

does the p500a seem like a plausible case? im looking at the pcpartpicker reviews and it seems to be generally pretty great

[Slottr]

2 hours ago, ketchupspill said:

does the p500a seem like a plausible case? im looking at the pcpartpicker reviews and it seems to be generally pretty great

Sure