Is my cpu limiting my GPU?

[WetTsunami]

My pc isn't reaching above 60 in CPU or GPU usage in games, and I feel like my CPU is limiting my GPU because it is a fx6300.

 

Although I did a MSI Kombuster and my GPU reaches 100% so I'm not really sure.

 

My parts are 

750ti

AMD 6300FX

8 GB ram Dual channel 

  970 Pro3 R2.0
 

If my CPU is limiting my GPU what should I upgrade to, I'm not really looking to spend too much because I might be getting a new build in a year or so

Or is there a fix to this?

[Moonzy]

11 minutes ago, WetTsunami said:

I might be getting a new build in a year or so

why not wait until then?

 

to answer your original question, have MSI afterburner running and monitor CPU thread and GPU usage

if GPU is pinned above 95% then it's GPU limit, if any CPU thread is consistently above 80% and GPU is fluctuating below 95%, then it's probably CPU limited (mainly single thread for that old CPU)

 

also, RAM usage, if it's above 7gb then you may consider that as a potential issue as well

[Lesothedoes]

5 hours ago, WetTsunami said:

My pc isn't reaching above 60 in CPU or GPU usage in games, and I feel like my CPU is limiting my GPU because it is a fx6300.

 

Although I did a MSI Kombuster and my GPU reaches 100% so I'm not really sure.

 

My parts are 

750ti

AMD 6300FX

8 GB ram Dual channel 

  970 Pro3 R2.0
 

If my CPU is limiting my GPU what should I upgrade to, I'm not really looking to spend too much because I might be getting a new build in a year or so

How are the temperatures of the GPU/CPU under sustained load?

 

Have you tried going open case/ramping fans if possible?

[WetTsunami]

22 hours ago, Lesothedoes said:

How are the temperatures of the GPU/CPU under sustained load?

 

Have you tried going open case/ramping fans if possible?

My case is already open and my fans are at the maximum speed.

I haven't run Kombuster for longer than 10 minutes at a time but my cpu runs at around 65-69 .

[WetTsunami]

On 8/16/2021 at 2:26 PM, Moonzy said:

why not wait until then?

 

to answer your original question, have MSI afterburner running and monitor CPU thread and GPU usage

if GPU is pinned above 95% then it's GPU limit, if any CPU thread is consistently above 80% and GPU is fluctuating below 95%, then it's probably CPU limited (mainly single thread for that old CPU)

 

also, RAM usage, if it's above 7gb then you may consider that as a potential issue as well

I'm trying to play some games (LoL, Rocket Leauge, Fortnite) at least because I don't really want to go a year without.

Gets quite boring

[Lesothedoes]

2 hours ago, WetTsunami said:

My case is already open and my fans are at the maximum speed.

I haven't run Kombuster for longer than 10 minutes at a time but my cpu runs at around 65-69 .

Why not try to reduce the maximum processor speed from 100 to 95 or so to reduce some of the heat being made and you can let the fans go a bit lower %. You are considering a benchmark running long enough to stop it but you are trying to troubleshoot what's stopping you from getting good performance? 

 

What's the issues presenting to make you feel you need more from the hardware? Did you mention any psu or model of the system? Sorry if I missed

2 hours ago, WetTsunami said:

I'm trying to play some games (LoL, Rocket Leauge, Fortnite) at least because I don't really want to go a year without.

Gets quite boring

You are not going to be throttled by your GPU majority of the time off bat for League, it's possible to squeeze 30+ fps on an old apu from lenovo last I tried

 

For the other games you really have to be a lot more realistically setting expectations. You know the hardware, you can look up the benchmarks for the titles for the GPU; if the general open source info says you're good, then maybe look to the CPU.

 

Before then, I'd be looking for power draw and otherwise more for what to do to get better performance of the graphics card you have. Is it stability with frames per second that you need like for a team fight or do you want to be looking cooler with toon wood painted quality to the top of the ability for a reasonable playing session?

[Mark Kaine]

53 minutes ago, Lesothedoes said:

What's the issues presenting to make you feel you need more from the hardware?

look, hes saying gpu and cpu usage are 60 (% probably) thats really strange, especially with such old hw, most newer games should totally pin it (which wouldnt be great either)

 

So yeah im not sure how big the problem is, but its certainly weird. 

[Lesothedoes]

37 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

look, hes saying gpu and cpu usage are 60 (% probably) thats really strange, especially with such old hw, most newer games should totally pin it (which wouldnt be great either)

 

So yeah im not sure how big the problem is, but its certainly weird. 

Yeah, he's also saying that this is the issue for playing very very popular games AND the same thing that's what he was providing as his result from a benchmark as well.

 

Looking at what he said, the confusion I have for the issue is not some snob rhetorically given in asking for a bit more than 1) it is unclear if the bottleneck is in anyway one or the other although OP suggested he feels the CPU was more likely, 2) the conditions of the benchmark were consistent with whatever the original concerned performance/bottleneck (they seem to be happening both in his intended use case as well as in sanitized benchmarking of the same hw

 

You say it as if it's good to be guessing when troubleshooting but it's still lost on me if you need to point out my directed response for more info when you get absolute guessing for whatever the issue is as a percent or not lol. Is the gpu thermal throttling, is the memory starving and his situation good for undervolting/clocking for more resource headroom, does the cpu have any different types of behavior under different allowed % processing power and cooling?

 

Failing to make my point enough as is, I have no idea besides the same retort of a legitimate need for more information or at least attempted communicated understanding of what the issue actually is, nonetheless what would be good to start with besides troubleshooting your day away

[WetTsunami]

20 hours ago, Lesothedoes said:

Why not try to reduce the maximum processor speed from 100 to 95 or so to reduce some of the heat being made and you can let the fans go a bit lower %. You are considering a benchmark running long enough to stop it but you are trying to troubleshoot what's stopping you from getting good performance? 

 

What's the issues presenting to make you feel you need more from the hardware? Did you mention any psu or model of the system? Sorry if I missed

You are not going to be throttled by your GPU majority of the time off bat for League, it's possible to squeeze 30+ fps on an old apu from lenovo last I tried

 

For the other games you really have to be a lot more realistically setting expectations. You know the hardware, you can look up the benchmarks for the titles for the GPU; if the general open source info says you're good, then maybe look to the CPU.

 

Before then, I'd be looking for power draw and otherwise more for what to do to get better performance of the graphics card you have. Is it stability with frames per second that you need like for a team fight or do you want to be looking cooler with toon wood painted quality to the top of the ability for a reasonable playing session?

I thought that it would be an issue with my cpu because someone somewhere else pointed out that it could be a cpu problem as it is a 6300fx. 

The Psu i have is a 500W Antec, its around 5-6 years old.

I've searched up what my hardware should be getting, and that's why I've made a post like this. I've seen others getting more fps with the same hardware, its not a massive boost, but it makes the games much more playable.

And yea, I'd just rather the games be playable, in comparison to looking better.

[WetTsunami]

 

[Lesothedoes]

On 8/18/2021 at 1:41 AM, WetTsunami said:

 

What specifically can you say is the first and most obvious game or thing you need to see improved?

 

On 8/18/2021 at 1:40 AM, WetTsunami said:

I've seen others getting more fps with the same hardware, its not a massive boost, but it makes the games much more playable.

And yea, I'd just rather the games be playable, in comparison to looking better.

Like referring to this, what is one game I can help you with seeing if the cpu is at fault? Just curious if you hadn't gotten any luck 

[WetTsunami]

On 8/20/2021 at 11:58 AM, Lesothedoes said:

What specifically can you say is the first and most obvious game or thing you need to see improved?

 

Like referring to this, what is one game I can help you with seeing if the cpu is at fault? Just curious if you hadn't gotten any luck 

Leauge of Legends I guess, I've seen people averaging around 90-100 fps and I'm only getting like 60fps and even worse in teamfights.