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Help on 5900x

I just switched to an AMD system:

 

5900x

Aorus x570 master

G.skill Trident 32g (2 2x8) 4000mhz kit

Asus 3070 dual 8g

SS 750w psu

H150i capellix

011 dyanic case 

With 9 unifan. 

 

Setup of fans /aio

Aio top push/pull exhaust

Bottom/side intake

 

Problem: 

Unstable

Im really new to amd, literallyy 1st tjme

 

My idle temps at 49-60

Load at highest 93

 

I fiddled with PBO CO, set to neg at 20 offset but unstable. Also used amd master, used creator, then auto OC, would be stable for a few hours, can even do 15 min prime95. With ok r23 scores. MC 22104

 

But then during gaming, would crash with esports titles (PUBG/Apex/underlords/dota)

Apex and pubg at low settings 1440 170hz

 

Just today i tried to manual oc on amd master, set to 4500mhz at 1.3v. 

Got lower temps idle 49-55, then load at most 91, fans still ramp up tho. 

 

Anyhelp on theses, i just want lower temps with decent mhz, and hopefully a less noisy system. 

 

Hope anyone can help  

 

Thanks! (From philippines)

 

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4 minutes ago, Rey Christopher Torres said:

crash

Does it bluescreen or just blackout? 

 

6 minutes ago, Rey Christopher Torres said:

G.skill Trident 32g (2 2x8) 4000mhz kit

Does your infinity fabric clock reach 2000mhz? You'd want to run ram and IF clocks 1:1, so for 4000mhz ddr ram speed you want 2000mhz on your IF. Assuming you enabled docp. 

 

 

Also: is the system stable when you do not oc (pbo or else)? 

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2 minutes ago, LauriHimself said:

Does it bluescreen or just blackout? 

 

Does your infinity fabric clock reach 2000mhz? You'd want to run ram and IF clocks 1:1, so for 4000mhz ddr ram speed you want 2000mhz on your IF. Assuming you enabled docp. 

 

 

Also: is the system stable when you do not oc (pbo or else)? 

I got twice bsod, but mostly, blackout and restart. Sometimes will freeze or crash, but not windows. 

 

I think i have to set IF to 2000mhz. Will def check that. 

 

Im on duty right now. Most of the help i'll get here, i will be able to implement tom.  

 

Any more tips? Im really worried bout my idle temps. Are they really that high? 

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Is it stable in stock config?

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5 minutes ago, Rey Christopher Torres said:

Im really worried bout my idle temps

high idle temps are pretty common on ryzen 5000

did you have pbo enabled when reaching those temps?

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11 minutes ago, svmlegacy said:

Is it stable in stock config?

Im really not sure.. will try it tomorrow.. but i guess mostly but i do remember i had a blackout like twice, 

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10 minutes ago, LauriHimself said:

high idle temps are pretty common on ryzen 5000

did you have pbo enabled when reaching those temps?

Yeah i've read that. But what are the accepted ones. Im pretty sure mine are quite high. Not sure if its due that im here in ph... plus, the fans always ramps up when i set it to balanced/pwm..  if i put it to quiet, it gets more unstable... 

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Cooling is important. The memory too. 

 

Are you running the XMP 4000 profile or something else?

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Just now, Rey Christopher Torres said:

Not sure if its due that im here in ph...

what are your room temps like there?

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Would really help if anyone can share or guide me on how they did it or what exactly to do. Dont know shit on this amd platform.  Sorry

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1 minute ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Cooling is important. The memory too. 

 

Are you running the XMP 4000 profile or something else?

Xmp profile

 

Re cooling, thats why i switched to the capellix 360

 

Room temps i think at most 25c since it raining here.. 

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17 minutes ago, Rey Christopher Torres said:

Xmp profile

 

Re cooling, thats why i switched to the capellix 360

 

Room temps i think at most 25c since it raining here.. 

Use HWInfo64 and monitor the memory temps while testing at load. 

 

Some chips IF don't like running 4000mhz. As a result, you can increase CPU SOC voltage, but this will increase cpu thermals.

 

Maybe drop the memory frequency to 3800 with the current voltage settings and see if it's more stable. Keep the 1:1 link for now.

 

Alternatively, you could run 1:2 keep the memory speed, but will cut IF frequency in half. This is not always desirable, but can help diagnose memory stability, so F the nay sayers. They just don't know how to diag....lol

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1:2 isn’t worth it unless you can run your ram at 4200 minimum. You gotta get your IF back up once you unlink it.

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17 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Use HWInfo64 and monitor the memory temps while testing at load. 

 

Some chips IF don't like running 4000mhz. As a result, you can increase CPU SOC voltage, but this will increase cpu thermals.

 

Maybe drop the memory frequency to 3800 with the current voltage settings and see if it's more stable. Keep the 1:1 link for now.

 

Alternatively, you could run 1:2 keep the memory speed, but will cut IF frequency in half. This is not always desirable, but can help diagnose memory stability, so F the nay sayers. They just don't know how to diag....lol

Memory 1:1 means divide by half right? If 4000mhz, then IF at 2000? Or 3800 then1900?

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Yes.

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51 minutes ago, Rey Christopher Torres said:

Memory 1:1 means divide by half right? If 4000mhz, then IF at 2000? Or 3800 then1900?

Right. Reduction of ratio, or "unlink the IF" from the memory strap, it would be 4000/2000 memclk and 2000/1000 Infinity Fabric - IFclk. 

 

With that you could OC the memory past the XMP frequency. 200mhz should be doable IMO.

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