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Hey guys, I know this question has been asked over and over, but I'm not satisfied with the answers I've seen, let me explain why. I have a gaming rig that has more power than I actually need, and I need an extra PC, and money being as tight as it is right now I can't really afford an extra full PC, so I wanted to run a VM to a second monitor. The setup is mostly working, I can run the VM with VMWare Player, and I can passthrough a keyboard and mouse, the problem is that I dont want to accidentally drag my mouse to the VM (which is on the other side of the wall btw), so my question is: is there anyway to make the vm run on the second monitor as if it was it's own? without the host machine being able to interact with it? like have the second monitor only for the vm, and disappear from the host? I know I could do this with a hypervisor like esxi or vsphere, but for what I read it seems to be a bit messy, and I'd like to avoid formatting my pc and reconfigure all that. Someone suggested I use a second GPU, and pass that through, but you also need a hypervisor for that, and I'm not sure if a cheapo usb to vga adapter would be allowed to passthru in VMWare player.

 

Thank you guys in advance.

 

Edit: Aster would work perfectly, but the license is quite expensive in my currency, and at that point it would actually be cheaper to get a second GPU, as the second machine doesn't need any gaming power as it will be used for office work and youtube only.

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Just buy a cheap GPU such as GT 710, r5 240, r5 420, GT 730 etc

What the horse considers play, the monkey considers business...

But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

Works Cited

      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

      Darbre PD. Metalloestrogens: an emerging class of inorganic xenoestrogens with potential to add to the oestrogenic burden of the human breast. J Appl Toxicol. 2006 May-Jun;26(3):191-7. doi: 10.1002/jat.1135. PMID: 16489580.

      Satarug S, Garrett SH, Sens MA, Sens DA. Cadmium, environmental exposure, and health outcomes. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Feb;118(2):182-90. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901234. PMID: 20123617; PMCID: PMC2831915.

      McElroy JA, Shafer MM, Trentham-Dietz A, Hampton JM, Newcomb PA. Cadmium exposure and breast cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Jun 21;98(12):869-73. doi: 10.1093/jnci/djj233. PMID: 16788160.

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11 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Id really try to get aster here. How much is it for you there? Should be much cheaper than a good vm setup would be.

Well, I'm in Brazil, so it costs around R$ 380,00 for 2 workplaces, I don't know what should I compare that with, but you can almost buy food for the whole month for a family of 4 people with that money.

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1 minute ago, Mel0nMan said:

Just buy a cheap GPU such as GT 710, r5 240, r5 420, GT 730 etc

this is something I've been trying to avoid, as it would be a hell lot of work, and would require me to format my pc, but ultimately if nothing else works, I will probably go that route, but I want to know if there's any other way before I pull the trigger.

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Just now, LPagote said:

this is something I've been trying to avoid, as it would be a hell lot of work, and would require me to format my pc, but ultimately if nothing else works, I will probably go that route, but I want to know if there's any other way before I pull the trigger.

It wouldn't be a lot of work. You shouldn't have to format your PC either for installing a new GPU. But if you want to go the VM route, as the first comment said I would also recommend something like Aster that allows passthrough of 1 pc to another.

What the horse considers play, the monkey considers business...

But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

Works Cited

      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

      Darbre PD. Metalloestrogens: an emerging class of inorganic xenoestrogens with potential to add to the oestrogenic burden of the human breast. J Appl Toxicol. 2006 May-Jun;26(3):191-7. doi: 10.1002/jat.1135. PMID: 16489580.

      Satarug S, Garrett SH, Sens MA, Sens DA. Cadmium, environmental exposure, and health outcomes. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Feb;118(2):182-90. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901234. PMID: 20123617; PMCID: PMC2831915.

      McElroy JA, Shafer MM, Trentham-Dietz A, Hampton JM, Newcomb PA. Cadmium exposure and breast cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Jun 21;98(12):869-73. doi: 10.1093/jnci/djj233. PMID: 16788160.

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8 minutes ago, LPagote said:

Well, I'm in Brazil, so it costs around R$ 380,00 for 2 workplaces, I don't know what should I compare that with, but you can almost buy food for the whole month for a family of 4 people with that money.

Thats probably gonna be cheaper and easier than getting a second gpu.

 

What are the full specs on your pc?

 

If its just for basic office work, you can probably get a second pc for basically free(well I have gotten many pcs for free if you know where to look)

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It wouldn't be a lot of work. You shouldn't have to format your PC either for installing a new GPU. But if you want to go the VM route, as the first comment said I would also recommend something like Aster that allows passthrough of 1 pc to another.

I would need to install a hypervisor, as I don't know any vm software that allows GPU passthru inside windows.

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5 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Thats probably gonna be cheaper and easier than getting a second gpu.

 

What are the full specs on your pc?

 

If its just for basic office work, you can probably get a second pc for basically free(well I have gotten many pcs for free if you know where to look)

I'm running a R7 1800x, 16gb, rx 580 8gb, it's not much but it's plenty for my use, i mostly play esports. And in Brasil, people give nothing for free, they sell everything, even ridiculous things like a defective gt 420... yuo can get some really old office pcs for around R$ 500, but Brazil is really big, and I live in a small city so there's not much tech deals going around.

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