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Harddrive shrinking error

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1 hour ago, skullnoober said:

mine is [499mb Healthy (Recovery Partition][100mb healthy (EFI System Partition)][(C:) 465gb Healthy (Boot, Page File, Crash dump, Basic Data Partition][558 MB Healthy (Recovery Partition)]

I'm also following a tutorial to bootload, and they used the windows disk partition manager, i also tried turning off hibernation but that did nothing, well, thanks for telling me

Sorry I don't think I explained myself, I was out when I typed this.

 

Here is a picture of the problem you are facing:
Assuming you want to shrink the C:\ drive, you have something like this:

Image1.png.946232771726435a79353f5223312edd.png

 

Blue if your data (OS, program, images, videos, etc.)

White is free space.

Red is your problem.

 

Disk Partition tool of Windows will not move that red block. So, all you can shrink is that last white block that you see to the right of the red one.

You need to use an alternative disk partition software which support data moving as its partition. Of course, backup your data before using, as data loss can occur.

 

Remember that:

  • HDDs are designed to write data on the next available spot wherever your head of your HDD is currently located. Therefore, you have fragmentation. It doesn't organize data, it just writes where itis, if something is in the way, it splits the data in sections (hence creating fragmentation).
  • SSDs which came later, emulate this, with a mix of the controller spreading the data to evenly use the chips the best it can (but the data fetching is so fast, and can get all segments at once (or just about), fragmentation is not really an issue, like it is for an HDD which has to collect all segments with 1 head, one at a time).

I'm trying to shrink my harddrive to dualboot (My first time so i don't know how to fix my issue), and it's showing me that I only have 49mb available of shrinkable memory, yet, my harddrive has 68% free space. It gives me this error right below: "You cannot shrink a volume beyond the point where any unmovable files are located. See the "defrag" event in the Application log for detailed information about the operation when it has completed." I don't know where the said log is too

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It is because you are using Windows Disk Partition Manager. This utility is very safe, and so won't move any data.

If your disk is like this:

[[all your files and programs][100GB of free space][this 1byte text file at the edge of your partition/disk]]

Then sadly Disk Part won't move that text file and you can't shrink your partition, despite this big gap of 100GB free space.

 

You need to use an alternative disk utility which all tend to support data relocation.

 

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29 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

It is because you are using Windows Disk Partition Manager. This utility is very safe, and so won't move any data.

If your disk is like this:

[[all your files and programs][100GB of free space][this 1byte text file at the edge of your partition/disk]]

Then sadly Disk Part won't move that text file and you can't shrink your partition, despite this big gap of 100GB free space.

 

You need to use an alternative disk utility which all tend to support data relocation.

 

mine is [499mb Healthy (Recovery Partition][100mb healthy (EFI System Partition)][(C:) 465gb Healthy (Boot, Page File, Crash dump, Basic Data Partition][558 MB Healthy (Recovery Partition)]

I'm also following a tutorial to bootload, and they used the windows disk partition manager, i also tried turning off hibernation but that did nothing, well, thanks for telling me

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1 hour ago, skullnoober said:

mine is [499mb Healthy (Recovery Partition][100mb healthy (EFI System Partition)][(C:) 465gb Healthy (Boot, Page File, Crash dump, Basic Data Partition][558 MB Healthy (Recovery Partition)]

I'm also following a tutorial to bootload, and they used the windows disk partition manager, i also tried turning off hibernation but that did nothing, well, thanks for telling me

Sorry I don't think I explained myself, I was out when I typed this.

 

Here is a picture of the problem you are facing:
Assuming you want to shrink the C:\ drive, you have something like this:

Image1.png.946232771726435a79353f5223312edd.png

 

Blue if your data (OS, program, images, videos, etc.)

White is free space.

Red is your problem.

 

Disk Partition tool of Windows will not move that red block. So, all you can shrink is that last white block that you see to the right of the red one.

You need to use an alternative disk partition software which support data moving as its partition. Of course, backup your data before using, as data loss can occur.

 

Remember that:

  • HDDs are designed to write data on the next available spot wherever your head of your HDD is currently located. Therefore, you have fragmentation. It doesn't organize data, it just writes where itis, if something is in the way, it splits the data in sections (hence creating fragmentation).
  • SSDs which came later, emulate this, with a mix of the controller spreading the data to evenly use the chips the best it can (but the data fetching is so fast, and can get all segments at once (or just about), fragmentation is not really an issue, like it is for an HDD which has to collect all segments with 1 head, one at a time).
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48 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

Sorry I don't think I explained myself, I was out when I typed this.

 

Here is a picture of the problem you are facing:
Assuming you want to shrink the C:\ drive, you have something like this:

Image1.png.946232771726435a79353f5223312edd.png

 

Blue if your data (OS, program, images, videos, etc.)

White is free space.

Red is your problem.

 

Disk Partition tool of Windows will not move that red block. So, all you can shrink is that last white block that you see to the right of the red one.

You need to use an alternative disk partition software which support data moving as its partition. Of course, backup your data before using, as data loss can occur.

 

Remember that:

  • HDDs are designed to write data on the next available spot wherever your head of your HDD is currently located. Therefore, you have fragmentation. It doesn't organize data, it just writes where itis, if something is in the way, it splits the data in sections (hence creating fragmentation).
  • SSDs which came later, emulate this, with a mix of the controller spreading the data to evenly use the chips the best it can (but the data fetching is so fast, and can get all segments at once (or just about), fragmentation is not really an issue, like it is for an HDD which has to collect all segments with 1 head, one at a time).

Yeah I installed MiniTool and it worked, thanks!

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