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4 minutes ago, Bentbadly said:

What is the difference between  570 motherboard and  450 board. I want to upgrade to take advantage of PCI 4, and future upgrades.

 

Thanks in advance.

what? X570 and B450?

geometry is hard
b550 > x570

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X570, B550 and B450. The letter here is part of the name, please dont omit them.

 

B450 has no PCIe 4, B550 only has PCIe 4 on the top PCIe x16 slot and M.2 slot (some boards offer two PCIE 4.0 x8 or PCIe 4.0 x8 + 3 M.2 w/ PCIe 4), X570 has PCIe 4 everywhere.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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7 minutes ago, Bentbadly said:

What is the difference between  570 motherboard and  450 board. I want to upgrade to take advantage of PCI 4, and future upgrades.

 

Thanks in advance.

Put it simply x570 is top tier chipset (not the motherboard since there's relatively shit motherboard with that chipset) you got the whole pcie gen4 connectivity with much more i/o than b550

B550 is, well, somewhat "stripdown" version of x570 you got less io plus you only got pcie gen4 doodads on the very top/ first pcie x16 and m.2 slot

 

B450 is last gen, more or less in the "same tier" as b550

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Its not worth investing into a AMD system at this time for any "future upgrades" since they already announced a new socket type for the next gen.  

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17 minutes ago, Bentbadly said:

ASRock B550 Taichi AMD AM4 3rd Gen and Future Ryzen 289$ cad

MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI, DDR4 Boost 339$ cad

 

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core/16-Thread or 

Buildzoid from AHC recommends the b550 steel legend/B550 Aorus Pro on the higher end, or B550 A-Pro on the mid range.

 

https://youtu.be/ihg6XQiqW7A

 

There's no need to overpay and get an x570 motherboard unless you need the extra features it offers.

 

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15 minutes ago, Slayerking92 said:

Its not worth investing into a AMD system at this time for any "future upgrades" since they already announced a new socket type for the next gen.  

Alder lake is also going to get a new platform so you are kind of screwed either way

 

¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

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33 minutes ago, Bentbadly said:

ASRock B550 Taichi AMD AM4 3rd Gen and Future Ryzen 289$ cad

MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI, DDR4 Boost 339$ cad

 

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core/16-Thread or 

 

5 minutes ago, curiousmind34 said:

Alder lake is also likely going to get a new platform so you are kind of screwed either way

 

¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

Not just "likely", it will be on a new socket. 

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 hour ago, Bentbadly said:

so will this only effect the motherboard and CPU. or will effect all computers parts.

The switch from DDR4 to DDR5 may be a factor with the socket change.

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