Parts Suggestions

[Rainnycorn]

Hi! I've assembled a PC before but never really had the opportunity to pick out the parts on my own... we're trying to build a workstation PC that can run R scripts. The scripts are incredibly large and are ram and cpu intensive. We also need it for some 3D mapping. Here are the specs that we came up with. Any gpu suggestions are greatly appreciated since we haven't decided on one yet:

 

CPU: Intel Core i7, 8-Core

Motherboard: ASUS TUF Z390-Plus 

Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB DDR4 3600

Power Supply: CORSAIR RMx Series RM850x CP-9020180-NA 850W

SSD: Western Digital WD BLACK SN750 NVMe M.2 2280 1TB

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S chromax

OS: Ubuntu

 

Thanks for your help!

 

[brob]

Didnyou consider any AMD cpu?

 

Why a  3 generations back cpu and motherboard?

 

GPU is likely going to be decided by budget. Can your R environment use gpu acceleration?

[Rainnycorn]

Hi @brob thanks for your reply! This list was built out by our technician so I am not entirely sure about why he chose them but I can try and explain...

 

Our budget is around 3k. We just started using R for some analyses and haven't really found a way to make it run faster (some of our bigger scripts can run for a whole day or two especially the ones with spatial data). Not really sure about the motherboard but any suggestions would be helpful  We mostly just want something that can support 128GB max memory for future expansion. For the CPU, I guess we've just never used AMD before... 

[brob]

Unless your R libraries can use the gpu for computation or you use software with very graphical output, the onchip gpu of Intel cpu should be fine.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-11900 2.5 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($526.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12A 60.09 CFM CPU Cooler  ($109.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME H570-PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($349.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($189.00 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($88.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($78.56 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1482.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[FireAbyss111802]

21 minutes ago, brob said:

Unless your R libraries can use the gpu for computation or you use software with very graphical output, the onchip gpu of Intel cpu should be fine.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-11900 2.5 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($526.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12A 60.09 CFM CPU Cooler  ($109.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME H570-PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($349.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($189.00 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($88.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($78.56 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1482.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-06-16 15:07 EDT-0400

 

 

get the 11700 instead to save some cash. 

[Guest]

27 minutes ago, brob said:

Unless your R libraries can use the gpu for computation or you use software with very graphical output, the onchip gpu of Intel cpu should be fine.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-11900 2.5 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($526.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12A 60.09 CFM CPU Cooler  ($109.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME H570-PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($349.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($189.00 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($88.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($78.56 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1482.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-06-16 15:07 EDT-0400

 

 

That cpu and board is a recipe for disaster. Not sure why you wouldn't get the i9 10900 if you need lots of cores. It is $75 cheaper. Also that cooler is way too expensive. You can get a Scythe Fuma 2 for $59.95.

[brob]

1 minute ago, lee32uk said:

That cpu and board is a recipe for disaster. Not sure why you wouldn't get the i9 10900 if you need lots of cores. It is $75 cheaper. Also that cooler is way too expensive. You can get a Scythe Fuma 2 for $59.95.

 

Not a question of cores but clock. Bottom line is i9-11900 has highest clock. 

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, brob said:

 

Not a question of cores but clock. Bottom line is i9-11900 has highest clock. 

No it doesn't. They both boost to 5.2GHz. Except the 11900 wouldn't on that board.

 

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/199328/intel-core-i9-10900-processor-20m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz.html

 

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/212252/intel-core-i9-11900-processor-16m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz.html

 

[Rainnycorn]

2 hours ago, brob said:

Unless your R libraries can use the gpu for computation or you use software with very graphical output, the onchip gpu of Intel cpu should be fine.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-11900 2.5 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($526.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12A 60.09 CFM CPU Cooler  ($109.95 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus PRIME H570-PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($349.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($189.00 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($88.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($78.56 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1482.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-06-16 15:07 EDT-0400

 

 

@brobWow! Thanks for taking the time to look at this  This is very helpful.

[Rainnycorn]

1 hour ago, lee32uk said:

No it doesn't. They both boost to 5.2GHz. Except the 11900 wouldn't on that board.

 

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/199328/intel-core-i9-10900-processor-20m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz.html

 

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/212252/intel-core-i9-11900-processor-16m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz.html

 

Hi @lee32uk! Do you have any motherboard and CPU suggestions? Also I still need suggestions for a GPU that can handle some 3D mapping. Thanks for your help!

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Rainnycorn said:

Hi @lee32uk! Do you have any motherboard and CPU suggestions? Also I still need suggestions for a GPU that can handle some 3D mapping. Thanks for your help!

Here are a couple of options depending on whether you want AMD or Intel. There is also the i9 10900 if you wanted more cores. Not sure what sort of gpu you would require, but they are pretty hard to get hold of at the minute. If you can get by with onboard graphics then that would limit you to Intel, as AMD don't have any 8 core+ with graphics.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($399.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($139.00 @ Amazon) 
Total: $597.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-06-16 19:23 EDT-0400

 

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-11700 2.5 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($339.99 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B560M AORUS PRO AX Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($179.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $579.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-06-16 19:25 EDT-0400

[Rainnycorn]

17 hours ago, lee32uk said:

Here are a couple of options depending on whether you want AMD or Intel. There is also the i9 10900 if you wanted more cores. Not sure what sort of gpu you would require, but they are pretty hard to get hold of at the minute. If you can get by with onboard graphics then that would limit you to Intel, as AMD don't have any 8 core+ with graphics.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($399.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($139.00 @ Amazon) 
Total: $597.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-06-16 19:23 EDT-0400

 

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-11700 2.5 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($339.99 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B560M AORUS PRO AX Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($179.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $579.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-06-16 19:25 EDT-0400

Thanks for this @lee32uk! As for the GPU, we'll use this PC for a lot of mapping... we use ArcGIS for mapping and sometimes blender for our AR Sandbox...

[brob]

5 hours ago, Rainnycorn said:

Thanks for this @lee32uk! As for the GPU, we'll use this PC for a lot of mapping... we use ArcGIS for mapping and sometimes blender for our AR Sandbox...

 

Given current gpu availability and pricing your choice is going to come down to budget and what is available from your merchants.

 

Ideally you will be able to get an RTX 3070 or better gpu. If you do, a suitably higher capacity psu will be required.

[Rainnycorn]

11 minutes ago, brob said:

 

Given current gpu availability and pricing your choice is going to come down to budget and what is available from your merchants.

 

Ideally you will be able to get an RTX 3070 or better gpu. If you do, a suitably higher capacity psu will be required.

Yeah... not a lot of gpu options at the moment so we might just buy an i9 cpu and upgrade later on. If we do choose RTX 3070 in the future, how much psu capacity would be needed? Thanks again @brob!

[brob]

Nvidia recommends a 650W unit for an RTX 3070 but the general user consensus is at least 750W. I would suggest you consider an 850W psu as that would give you the flexibility to consider higher performance gpu should budget and availability allow.

[Rainnycorn]

17 hours ago, brob said:

Nvidia recommends a 650W unit for an RTX 3070 but the general user consensus is at least 750W. I would suggest you consider an 850W psu as that would give you the flexibility to consider higher performance gpu should budget and availability allow.

We will add it into our wish list! Anyways, I really appreciate your help and here is an updated list of parts (these components were chosen based on price and availability here in Canada):

 

CPU: Intel Core i9-10900 Comet Lake 10-Core 2.8 GHz ($489.99)

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black, 120mm Single-Tower CPU Cooler (Black) ($99.95)

Motherboard: MSI MPG Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI LGA 1200 Intel Z490 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard ($279.00)

Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200  ($435.99) 
Storage: Western Digital WD BLACK SN750 NVMe M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express 3.0 ($194.00) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Black ATX  ($104.99) 
Power Supply: Seasonic FOCUS GX-550, 550W 80+ Gold, Full-Modular ($89.99) 
Total: $1693.91 CAD

 

What are your thoughts? Do we need more fans? If you have any gpu suggestions around 500-600cad maybe we'll consider buying one...

 

[brob]

You might find ca.pcpartpicker.com useful for maintaining your build list. (Use the BB button on the build list go generate a BB list that can be pasted into a post.

 

I'd suggest a slightly less expensive, but very capable motherboard, https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/m2mmP6/msi-mag-b560-tomahawk-wifi-atx-lga1200-motherboard-mag-b560-tomahawk-wifi. 

 

If the plan is to get a gpu like the RTX 3070 or better, consider a higher capacity psu.

[Rainnycorn]

53 minutes ago, brob said:

You might find ca.pcpartpicker.com useful for maintaining your build list. (Use the BB button on the build list go generate a BB list that can be pasted into a post.

 

I'd suggest a slightly less expensive, but very capable motherboard, https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/m2mmP6/msi-mag-b560-tomahawk-wifi-atx-lga1200-motherboard-mag-b560-tomahawk-wifi. 

 

If the plan is to get a gpu like the RTX 3070 or better, consider a higher capacity psu.

Ohh! pcpartpicker is quite helpful thanks! 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-10900 2.8 GHz 10-Core Processor  ($488.50 @ Vuugo) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B560 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($249.00 @ Canada Computers) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($414.99 @ Memory Express) 
Storage: Western Digital SN750 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($199.00 @ Canada Computers) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($151.97 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $1503.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Case suggestions? The psu seems to be much bigger for the initial case!

[Guest]

The Gigabyte B560M Aorus Pro AX in my list is a much better option. No real point getting Z490 as the cpu is locked. The Aorus Pro also has a better VRM than the B560 Tomahawk so no point paying more for that.

 

Just be aware that the top M.2 slot will be disabled with a 10th gen cpu. 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Motherboard: Gigabyte B560M AORUS PRO AX Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($199.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Total: $199.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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