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so i have a Vega frontier that i just installed in my main PC. i is giving me the strangest issue. i have a 144hz monitor. initially when i put the card in it seemed to run the monitor at its full refresh rate. but when i installed the driver it made the monitor seem like it was only running at 60hz. after i noticed this i went into display settings to change the refresh rate but i found that it reported that the monitor was running at the full 144hz. next i decided to try and enable free-sync. it enabled no problem but it still looked like the refresh rate was too slow. i decided to downgrade drivers to see if the optional driver was causing the issue but i had the same problem with the latest recommended driver.

 

after all of this took place i decided to play a game to see how bad it would look, but to my surprise, as soon as i launched a game the monitor started running at the proper refresh rate and everything looked super smooth like it should, and there was zero studder just like there should be.

 

so what gives? why does the refresh rate work when i play a game but it doesn't work anywhere else?

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Well, it seems just fine. Many monitors clock down to save power, etc when not gaming.

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Just now, wat3rmelon_man2 said:

Well, it seems just fine. Many monitors clock down to save power, etc when not gaming.

Ive had this monitor for over a year now and this isn't normal. is there any way i can check if its "clocking down"? could it be doing this because of a graphics "feature" im not aware of?

 

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Ive had this monitor for over a year now and this isn't normal. is there any way i can check if its "clocking down"? could it be doing this because of a graphics "feature" im not aware of?

 

^^^ Never seen that on any of my monitors, even my high refresh one (144Hz, OCable to 180Hz via the OSD). I had a VFE for a while too (tho I only used 60Hz monitors at the time IIRC) and I don't remember it doing that. Pretty sure I used the gaming drivers though, are you using the workstation ones? 

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1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

^^^ Never seen that on any of my monitors, even my high refresh one (144Hz, OCable to 180Hz via the OSD). I had a VFE for a while too (tho I only used 60Hz monitors at the time IIRC) and I don't remember it doing that. Pretty sure I used the gaming drivers though, are you using the workstation ones? 

i tried to find the gaming drivers but it seems that they dont exist anymore. the adrenaline driver pack on the amd website turns into the radeon pro drivers when you install

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i tried to find the gaming drivers but it seems that they dont exist anymore. the adrenaline driver pack on the amd website turns into the radeon pro drivers when you install

I think it tried that with me, tried installing with the wifi turned off so it doesn't try and automatically install them? I'm pretty sure you can just download the V64 drivers as well (same card with less VRAM and slightly diff voltages but that part is decided by the card's BIOS) if the VFE ones included the Pro drivers and it keeps trying to install them. 

Side note, god I hate things that try and automatically guess what I want instead of just letting me pick. 

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Motherboard: ASRock Z690 ITX/ax ASUS Pro B550M-C/CSM Apple J713AP Mac-F221BEC8 (Mac Pro 5,1)

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3 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

I think it tried that with me, tried installing with the wifi turned off so it doesn't try and automatically install them? I'm pretty sure you can just download the V64 drivers as well (same card with less VRAM and slightly diff voltages but that part is decided by the card's BIOS) if the VFE ones included the Pro drivers and it keeps trying to install them. 

Side note, god I hate things that try and automatically guess what I want instead of just letting me pick. 

ill try regular vega 64 drivers and see what happends

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1 hour ago, Zando Bob said:

I think it tried that with me, tried installing with the wifi turned off so it doesn't try and automatically install them? I'm pretty sure you can just download the V64 drivers as well (same card with less VRAM and slightly diff voltages but that part is decided by the card's BIOS) if the VFE ones included the Pro drivers and it keeps trying to install them. 

Side note, god I hate things that try and automatically guess what I want instead of just letting me pick. 

ok so i tried installing the vega 64 driver but it wouldnt let me because the software knows that its an FE and not a 64

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