PC upgrade

[pofijanika]

Hi there!

 

Budget: ~1200-1300 EUR (excluding parts that I already have and wouldn't change)

Country: Hungary

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Adobe Premiere Pro (4K footage editing and exporting), streaming at 1080p 60fps, gaming at 1440p.

Existing parts I wouldn't change:

- Corsair Obsidian 450D Airflow Edition case

- 3x3.5" HDD

- 2xSATA SSD

- EVGA Supernova 550W G3 PSU

- EVGA XC3 Ultra 3070 GPU

- Acer 165Hz 1440p monitor

- Eizo CS270 1440p monitor

- peripherals

Parts I picked after my own research:

- AMD 5900X CPU (628 EUR)

- Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 CPU cooler (85 EUR)

- Arctic MX-5 paste (11 EUR)

- Asus ROG Strix B550-F Gaming (WiFi) motherboard (174 EUR)

- Samsung 980 1TB M.2 NVME SSD (142 EUR)

- Crucial 32GB Kit (2x16GB) DDR4 3200 Mhz CL 16 Ballistix Black RAM (191 EUR)

 

= 1231 EUR

 

Comments, questions: I'm not planning on overclocking anything, only maybe undervolting the GPU, but honestly, I haven't done anything like this before.

I wouldn't like liquid cooling.

 

According to the power supply calculator I used, I should be okay with my current 550W one (listed above).

 

Would 3600 Mhz RAM make much difference in the real world?

 

Dark Rock Pro 4 or NH-D15?

 

The 3900X goes for ~430 EUR in stores and ~360 EUR on the second hand market. Would this make more sense than going for a new 5900X?

 

Any recommendations or comments about the parts I picked? The prices listed above are store prices in my country... Anything you would recommend getting on the second hand market?

 

Thank you for reading and thanks for answering in advance!

[Helpful Tech Witch]

7 minutes ago, pofijanika said:

Would 3600 Mhz RAM make much difference in the real world?

 

I would get it.

thatsa a 1:1 infinity fabric ratio which is really good.

[NoNameCola]

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Dark Rock Pro 4 or NH-D15?

Whichever is cheaper in your region if they both fit in your case. In performance the NH-D15 is slightly ahead but really there is no difference.

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The 3900X goes for ~430 EUR in stores and ~360 EUR on the second hand market. Would this make more sense than going for a new 5900X?

The 5000 series has significantly better single-thread performance. Most games still can't take too much advantage of more then about 4 cores. The 5900X strikes a decent balance between gaming and productivity.

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According to the power supply calculator I used, I should be okay with my current 550W one (listed above).

You should be OK but the RTX 30XX can have high transient loads which may trip the over-current protection of certain lower-wattage PSUs.

[OfficialTechSpace]

14 minutes ago, pofijanika said:

According to the power supply calculator I used, I should be okay with my current 550W one (listed above).

A minimum of a 650W PSU is recommended for an RTX 3070, you can try the 550W if you want, but it'll probably trigger overcurrent protection and shut down anytime you're under intensive load on the GPU 

14 minutes ago, pofijanika said:

Would 3600 Mhz RAM make much difference in the real world?

With Ryzen, CAS latency scales better than frequency, so this is the wrong question to be asking. However, as long as you stick with your listed CL16 kit or another, you should be fine.

14 minutes ago, pofijanika said:

Dark Rock Pro 4 or NH-D15?

Either would work. NH-D15 is marginally quieter and performs slightly better, but it also usually costs more.

14 minutes ago, pofijanika said:

The 3900X goes for ~430 EUR in stores and ~360 EUR on the second hand market. Would this make more sense than going for a new 5900X?

Not at all. You'd be sacrificing about ~20% of your performance for 4 more last-gen cores. Go for the 5900X.

[pofijanika]

3 minutes ago, OfficialTechSpace said:

A minimum of a 650W PSU is recommended for an RTX 3070, you can try the 550W if you want, but it'll probably trigger overcurrent protection and shut down anytime you're under intensive load on the GPU 

With Ryzen, CAS latency scales better than frequency, so this is the wrong question to be asking. However, as long as you stick with your listed CL16 kit or another, you should be fine.

Either would work. NH-D15 is marginally quieter and performs slightly better, but it also usually costs more.

Not at all. You'd be sacrificing about ~20% of your performance for 4 more last-gen cores. Go for the 5900X.

Thank you!

 

Actually, I've been using the 3070 for a while now with my stock 4770k and the 550W PSU without any issues. Although, I know that the TDP of the 5900X is 20 watts higher.

[pofijanika]

12 minutes ago, Mao_Zedong01 said:

Whichever is cheaper in your region if they both fit in your case. In performance the NH-D15 is slightly ahead but really there is no difference.

The 5000 series has significantly better single-thread performance. Most games still can't take too much advantage of more then about 4 cores. The 5900X strikes a decent balance between gaming and productivity.

You should be OK but the RTX 30XX can have high transient loads which may trip the over-current protection of certain lower-wattage PSUs.

Thank you!

[pofijanika]

13 minutes ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

I would get it.

thatsa a 1:1 infinity fabric ratio which is really good.

Thanks!

[RodrigoRS]

Hello!

 

About your ram, it will not make a lot of difference between 3200MHz and 3600MHz, don't worry.

 

If you want quiet and good for the CPU cooler, get the Schyte Fuma 2. It's awesome, quiet and really good (if you are not planning to overclock). I have the Ryzen 9 5900X with the Schyte Fuma 2 and never had any problem with temperature.

 

Lastly, even though you will mostly be fine with a 550W power supply, you may be in the 80-100% usage if you really work hard with both GPU and CPU. Therefore, I would really recommend that you get something a bit beeffier. I know is more money to spend but, considering the quality of your build, I would not cheap out on the only thing that could kill any/all of the parts if it fails or get overloaded.

 

Good luck and congratulations with your system.

[pofijanika]

8 minutes ago, RodrigoRS said:

Hello!

 

About your ram, it will not make a lot of difference between 3200MHz and 3600MHz, don't worry.

 

If you want quiet and good for the CPU cooler, get the Schyte Fuma 2. It's awesome, quiet and really good (if you are not planning to overclock). I have the Ryzen 9 5900X with the Schyte Fuma 2 and never had any problem with temperature.

 

Lastly, even though you will mostly be fine with a 550W power supply, you may be in the 80-100% usage if you really work hard with both GPU and CPU. Therefore, I would really recommend that you get something a bit beeffier. I know is more money to spend but, considering the quality of your build, I would not cheap out on the only thing that could kill any/all of the parts if it fails or get overloaded.

 

Good luck and congratulations with your system.

Thank you!

 

I will look into the Fuma 2. Yes, that's what's worrying me as well, I shouldn't cheap out on the PSU. I will get some help from the PSU tier list.

[SPARTAN VI]

13 minutes ago, OfficialTechSpace said:

A minimum of a 650W PSU is recommended for an RTX 3070, you can try the 550W if you want, but it'll probably trigger overcurrent protection and shut down anytime you're under intensive load on the GPU 

 

It probably wont. I've been running a RTX 3070 + Ryzen 5600X since October on a 550W unit. In fact, it's what Guru3D recommends. 

 

My meter at the outlet reads 405W at full-tilt (100% load on GPU and CPU), including 1 of my displays, 1x M.2 SSD, 3x SATA SSDs, 1x SSHD, and 5 fans. At worst he's looking at about 500W if he also puts a huge multithreaded load on his 5900X at the same time he's benchmarking his GPU.

[pofijanika]

Just now, SPARTAN VI said:

It probably wont. I've been running a RTX 3070 + Ryzen 5600X since October on a 550W unit. Wattage at the wall is at 405W at full-tilt (100% load on GPU and CPU), including 1 of my displays, 1x M.2 SSD, 3x SATA SSDs, 1x SSHD, and 5 fans. At worst he's looking at about 500W if he also puts a huge multithreaded load on his 5900X at the same time he's benchmarking his GPU. 

Thanks for the insight! Now I'm at the point where I'm thinking not changing my PSU at first and measuring wattage at full load/different scenarios, then decide what's next.

[OfficialTechSpace]

Just now, SPARTAN VI said:

It probably wont. At worst he's looking at about 500W if he also puts a huge multithreaded load on his 5900X at the same time he's benchmarking his GPU. 

That's assuming his PSU can actually handle what it's peak performance has been advertised as. You've probably gotten lucky with your Seasonic, as I've seen others get lucky with some Corsair PSUs as well, but that doesn't say anything for a gold rated EVGA.

 

Different PSUs have different power rail configurations and limitations.

 

[SPARTAN VI]

12 minutes ago, OfficialTechSpace said:

That's assuming his PSU can actually handle what it's peak performance has been advertised as. You've probably gotten lucky with your Seasonic, as I've seen others get lucky with some Corsair PSUs as well, but that doesn't say anything for a gold rated EVGA.

 

Different PSUs have different power rail configurations and limitations.

 

It's not luck though. It's simply pulling 400W when I blast it with a 100% load on my CPU and GPU, or just above 350W on a GPU torture test alone. His PSU is considered Tier A, I highly doubt it would "probably trigger OCP" with his RTX 3070. 

[OfficialTechSpace]

2 minutes ago, SPARTAN VI said:

I highly doubt it would "probably trigger OCP" with his RTX 3070. 

We shall see, he'll be back if it does