Good overclocking guide?

[ATK422]

I am currently looking at the Msi overclocking guide and I am wondering if it would be good for my system as I recently got a X73. https://www.msi.com/blog/intel-9th-cpu-overclocking-5ghz-with-z390-motherboards

[LIGISTX]

9 minutes ago, ATK422 said:

I am currently looking at the Msi overclocking guide and I am wondering if it would be good for my system as I recently got a X73. https://www.msi.com/blog/intel-9th-cpu-overclocking-5ghz-with-z390-motherboards

There are a LOT of videos on youtube showing you how to OC a 9900k. I assuming that guide is fine since its by MSI, but never just look at a single source. Look at many and start to understand the trends.

 

Also, remember 9900k's run HOT, and if it was a unit made after the 9900ks started to exist, it won't have much headroom in it as the good 9900k's were turned into 9900ks's. My 9900k did 5 GHz all core, but it ran at 95C when doing stress tests with the same cooling in the system in my sig, with a lapped cold plate. It got INSANELY hot, the chip just had bad TIM under the IHS and the heat wouldn't actually get out to the heatsink. Hopefully that doesn't happen with yours, but man my 9900k was hard to OC. 

 

I was 5 GHz all core 0 AVX offset, 46 or 47 ring bus (I forget), and I think it was 1.3 ish VRVOUT. From a practicality standpoint, OCing a 9900k isn't "worth" it due to how it boosts normally anyways. Unless you can get a 5 GHz all core OC, your really not going to see much of a difference, and even then you won't see much. That said, its fun, and thats why I do it. I know I am seeing maybe 1-2% FPS gains especially at my resolution, but its about the journey and the fun of doing it, so as long as you remember that, itll be fun :).

[ATK422]

1 minute ago, LIGISTX said:

There are a LOT of videos on youtube showing you how to OC a 9900k. I assuming that guide is fine since its by MSI, but never just look at a single source. Look at many and start to understand the trends.

 

Also, remember 9900k's run HOT, and if it was a unit made after the 9900ks started to exist, it won't have much headroom in it as the good 9900k's were turned into 9900ks's. My 9900k did 5 GHz all core, but it ran at 95C when doing stress tests with the same cooling in the system in my sig, with a lapped cold plate. It got INSANELY hot, the chip just had bad TIM under the IHS and the heat wouldn't actually get out to the heatsink. Hopefully that doesn't happen with yours, but man my 9900k was hard to OC. 

 

I was 5 GHz all core 0 AVX offset, 46 or 47 ring bus (I forget), and I think it was 1.3 ish VRVOUT. From a practicality standpoint, OCing a 9900k isn't "worth" it due to how it boosts normally anyways. Unless you can get a 5 GHz all core OC, your really not going to see much of a difference, and even then you won't see much. That said, its fun, and thats why I do it. I know I am seeing maybe 1-2% FPS gains especially at my resolution, but its about the journey and the fun of doing it, so as long as you remember that, itll be fun :).

Thanks for the advice! I’ll make sure to check out other guides and see if I got one of the good ones.

[LIGISTX]

1 minute ago, ATK422 said:

Thanks for the advice! I’ll make sure to check out other guides and see if I got one of the good ones.

Also to check for stability, I have had good luck with asus real bench. If you can pass the 8 hour stress test, your probs ok. That + a few hours of AIDA 64 normal torture test and then another few hours of AIDA 64 just with the FPU option checked in the torture test.... your stable.

 

https://rog.asus.com/rog-pro/realbench-v2-leaderboard/

[Adrian007]

21 minutes ago, ATK422 said:

I am currently looking at the Msi overclocking guide and I am wondering if it would be good for my system as I recently got a X73. https://www.msi.com/blog/intel-9th-cpu-overclocking-5ghz-with-z390-motherboards

JayzTwoCents youtuber have a look good youtuber 30+yrs experience on computers  

[ATK422]

8 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

There are a LOT of videos on youtube showing you how to OC a 9900k. I assuming that guide is fine since its by MSI, but never just look at a single source. Look at many and start to understand the trends.

 

Also, remember 9900k's run HOT, and if it was a unit made after the 9900ks started to exist, it won't have much headroom in it as the good 9900k's were turned into 9900ks's. My 9900k did 5 GHz all core, but it ran at 95C when doing stress tests with the same cooling in the system in my sig, with a lapped cold plate. It got INSANELY hot, the chip just had bad TIM under the IHS and the heat wouldn't actually get out to the heatsink. Hopefully that doesn't happen with yours, but man my 9900k was hard to OC. 

 

I was 5 GHz all core 0 AVX offset, 46 or 47 ring bus (I forget), and I think it was 1.3 ish VRVOUT. From a practicality standpoint, OCing a 9900k isn't "worth" it due to how it boosts normally anyways. Unless you can get a 5 GHz all core OC, your really not going to see much of a difference, and even then you won't see much. That said, its fun, and thats why I do it. I know I am seeing maybe 1-2% FPS gains especially at my resolution, but its about the journey and the fun of doing it, so as long as you remember that, itll be fun :).

Update: I think I might have got one of the good chips as I am currently running at 75c in cinebench with all cores clocked at 5ghz!

[ATK422]

6 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

Also to check for stability, I have had good luck with asus real bench. If you can pass the 8 hour stress test, your probs ok. That + a few hours of AIDA 64 normal torture test and then another few hours of AIDA 64 just with the FPU option checked in the torture test.... your stable.

 

https://rog.asus.com/rog-pro/realbench-v2-leaderboard/

Okay I’ll try that

[LIGISTX]

Just now, ATK422 said:

Update: I think I might have got one of the good chips as I am currently running at 75c in cinebench with all cores clocked at 5ghz!

Cinebench is not at all good enough to validate an OC. Its way to light of a test. Even Asus realbench isn't super heavy, but its been pretty reliable for me with pointing out stability. But..... cinebench not at all, unfortunately. 

[ATK422]

1 minute ago, LIGISTX said:

Cinebench is not at all good enough to validate an OC. Its way to light of a test. Even Asus realbench isn't super heavy, but its been pretty reliable for me with pointing out stability. But..... cinebench not at all, unfortunately. 

Any suggestions then since I just tried cpu-z’s stress and had about the same results.

[LIGISTX]

2 minutes ago, ATK422 said:

Any suggestions then since I just tried cpu-z’s stress and had about the same results.

 

11 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

Also to check for stability, I have had good luck with asus real bench. If you can pass the 8 hour stress test, your probs ok. That + a few hours of AIDA 64 normal torture test and then another few hours of AIDA 64 just with the FPU option checked in the torture test.... your stable.

 

https://rog.asus.com/rog-pro/realbench-v2-leaderboard/

^. lol. Seriously, Those are the good options if you want to know your actually stable. 

[ATK422]

1 minute ago, LIGISTX said:

 

^. lol. Seriously, Those are the good options if you want to know your actually stable. 

Okay got it!

[ATK422]

12 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

 

^. lol. Seriously, Those are the good options if you want to know your actually stable. 

When I started the aida64 one my computer froze for a few seconds, is that normal?

[LIGISTX]

2 minutes ago, ATK422 said:

When I started the aida64 one my computer froze for a few seconds, is that normal?

Define froze? If its still running, its probably ok? If it has any errors it should tell you. 

[ATK422]

Just now, LIGISTX said:

Define froze? If its still running, its probably ok? If it has any errors it should tell you. 

Couldn’t do anything on the pc and the screens didn’t respond, it’s still going and no errors. I’m going to keep it running overnight then when I wake up put the real bench on

[ATK422]

1 minute ago, LIGISTX said:

Define froze? If its still running, its probably ok? If it has any errors it should tell you. 

Actually it just stopped 5 minutes in saying hardware failure detected

[LIGISTX]

1 minute ago, ATK422 said:

Actually it just stopped 5 minutes in saying hardware failure detected

There ya go. lol. Not enough volts....

 

What temps was it hitting?

[ATK422]

2 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

There ya go. lol. Not enough volts....

 

What temps was it hitting?

Low 70s to high 60s, I’m currently at 1.32 volts so what should I up it to?

[LIGISTX]

2 minutes ago, ATK422 said:

Low 70s to high 60s, I’m currently at 1.32 volts so what should I up it to?

Up until its not giving you errors... Or it gets to hot to keep upping it.

[ATK422]

Just now, LIGISTX said:

Up until its not giving you errors... Or it gets to hot to keep upping it.

Got it

[LIGISTX]

Just now, ATK422 said:

Got it

Usually there is a voltage I would say "don't go above this value", but usually 9900k's run into thermal issues before they get to a voltage that is to high. Just make sure your LLC is set correctly for the mobo you have, that will help with transient response. And make sure you actually monitoring the voltage hitting the CPU.... VR Vout is the voltage you want to look for... hopefully your mobo reports that. Vcore is entirely a lie. 

 

 

it is a long video. But if you want to actually know what your doing when your adjusting magical buttons in BIOS..... learning takes time. But its worth understanding. 

 

Also, he has good videos on 9900k OCing as well, give them a look. Its long, but, its worth it. Remember, your "risking" your hardware for almost no appreciable gaming performance gains. Might as well fully understand it and do it correctly and safely

[ATK422]

15 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

Usually there is a voltage I would say "don't go above this value", but usually 9900k's run into thermal issues before they get to a voltage that is to high. Just make sure your LLC is set correctly for the mobo you have, that will help with transient response. And make sure you actually monitoring the voltage hitting the CPU.... VR Vout is the voltage you want to look for... hopefully your mobo reports that. Vcore is entirely a lie. 

 

 

it is a long video. But if you want to actually know what your doing when your adjusting magical buttons in BIOS..... learning takes time. But its worth understanding. 

 

Also, he has good videos on 9900k OCing as well, give them a look. Its long, but, its worth it. Remember, your "risking" your hardware for almost no appreciable gaming performance gains. Might as well fully understand it and do it correctly and safely

Got it, also I put it up to 1.35 and it seems to be running perfectly with it hitting 56-84