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Trying to build my first budget pc, need some help

Pleasantig
By Pleasantig
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Budget: $500-$650 USD (not including monitor and keyboard)

Country: United States

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: casual gaming, art and internet browsing 

Parts: 

    CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G (Integrated Graphics, Vega 11)

    Motherboard: ASRock B450 Steel Legend ATX AM4

    Ram: Patriot Viper 4 Blackout 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16

    Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME SSD

    Case:  Deepcool Gamer Storm MACUBE 310 ATX Mid Tower Case

    PSU:    EVGA BQ 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX

   Wifi Adapter: TP-Link Archer T4E PCIe

 

I'm gonna be using an APU until GPUs lower down in price. Any parts I should change? Any upgrades I should do down the line? I'm gonna upgrade my Ram as soon as possible to 8x2, but for know 4x2 is fine. Oh yeah. The Ryzen 5 3400g has gone up in price recently, should i wait for a price cut or just buy it now? Any advice is helpful. 

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28 minutes ago, Pleasantig said:

I'm gonna be using an APU until GPUs lower down in price.

Then grab a fast CPU with a decent igpu instead.

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-11400 2.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $183.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 Blue 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler $24.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Asus PRIME B560-PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard $119.99 @ Newegg
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory $77.98 @ Amazon
Storage ADATA SU635 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $31.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital Blue 2 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.99 @ Newegg
Case Cougar MX331 MESH ATX Mid Tower Case $49.99 @ B&H
Power Supply Corsair CX (2017) 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $77.54 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $616.46
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-24 05:04 EDT-0400  

 

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44 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

Then grab a fast CPU with a decent igpu instead.

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-11400 2.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $183.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 Blue 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler $24.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Asus PRIME B560-PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard $119.99 @ Newegg
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory $77.98 @ Amazon
Storage ADATA SU635 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $31.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital Blue 2 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.99 @ Newegg
Case Cougar MX331 MESH ATX Mid Tower Case $49.99 @ B&H
Power Supply Corsair CX (2017) 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $77.54 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $616.46
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-24 05:04 EDT-0400  

 

Fully agree with your statement.

 

Just would change the ssd to something not so crappy. Like a mx500 or wd blue if going the sata drive route and just get a large ssd then. Hdd addon later is easy enough.

 

A hyper 212 evo for cooler would also probably be nicer for a little more as it is better and quieter.

 

For cpu if op wants to go even cheaper a 10400 + b460/h470 combo is even cheaper for barely any worse performance.

 

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8 minutes ago, jaslion said:

A hyper 212 evo for cooler would also probably be nicer for a little more as it is better and quieter.

Gammaxx 400 is pretty much a ripoff of it, but i do agree its a tad quieter.

 

9 minutes ago, jaslion said:

For cpu if op wants to go even cheaper a 10400 + b460/h470 combo is even cheaper for barely any worse performance.

Im mostly going with the 11400 mostly for the much stronger iris xe graphics. Its also a choice if OP doesnt need to run games.

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11 minutes ago, SorryClaire said:

Gammaxx 400 is pretty much a ripoff of it, but i do agree its a tad quieter.

 

Im mostly going with the 11400 mostly for the much stronger iris xe graphics. Its also a choice if OP doesnt need to run games.

The 11400 doesnt have xe graphics.

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21 minutes ago, jaslion said:

The 11400 doesnt have xe graphics.

Shoot, was being a dumbass and forgot to check ark. Nevermind then.

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10 hours ago, SorryClaire said:

Then grab a fast CPU with a decent igpu instead.

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-11400 2.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $183.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 Blue 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler $24.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard Asus PRIME B560-PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard $119.99 @ Newegg
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory $77.98 @ Amazon
Storage ADATA SU635 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $31.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital Blue 2 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive $49.99 @ Newegg
Case Cougar MX331 MESH ATX Mid Tower Case $49.99 @ B&H
Power Supply Corsair CX (2017) 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $77.54 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $616.46
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-24 05:04 EDT-0400  

 

 

I think Pleasantig's own suggestion was the best available in the US*: even the Ryzen 3000 series Vega 11 integrated graphics are DOUBLE the speed of the i7 11th gen's UHD750, let alone the UHD 730 in the lower spec Intel chips....

 

*I don't think the Ryzen 7 APU chips were released in North America (if Linus' constant grumbles are accurate).... 

 

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-Vega-11-Ryzen-iGPU-vs-Intel-UHD-Graphics-750/m401440vsm1498842

 

I assume that the benchmark linked above is for Ryzen 7 Vega 11 GPU... which has an extra core and sightly higher clocks.... even if you lose around 10% GPU performance going for the Ryzen 5 you'll still be ina  good place: "only" be 95% faster than an i7 11th gen, instead of 105% faster 😉

 

The AMD option also saves $40 on the motherboard and gives you a better future upgrade path: that Asrock B450 is a great option as you'll still be able to put a top Ryzen 5000 series CPU in there in a couple of years' time, when you're ready for the next step up.

My workstation/gamer: Ryzen9 5900X@5Ghz, AC Freezer2 280mm AIO, ASUS TUF X570PRO, RTX3080Ti FE, 32Gb TridentZ DDR4-3600C14, M.2 1Tb WDSN850, M.2 1Tb WDSN550, 2x 8Tb WD80EFAX, Corsair HX850, LianLi O11 Air Mini + 3x NF-A14's, Gigabyte M27Q (27"/1440P/170Hz), Asus PA248 (24"/1200P/60Hz), Dell WFP2408 (24"/1200P/60Hz), G815 kbd, G502 mouse, Sony WH-H910N, ModMic Wireless.

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