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im upgrading from a build i did like 10+yrs ago
i dont play online competitive games. i just want to be able to run new games. old machine isnt cutting the mustard.
let me know what you think of the parts i picked out. are they trash.

are there others in the same mid range that would be better? 

im not fancy or a RGB snob.

 


Budget (including currency): 1k-ish

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Fusion360, Cyberpunk2077, internet, 3dprinting

Other details ( whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

  • upgrading from: (i3-2600 w/8gbram and gigabyte1660 gpu or rx570)
  • parts i have: i think i can reuse my case, GPU and PSU.
  • When: i hope to buy soon if price are right.
  • rez: resolution 1080 @ 60hz is fine with me


 

Component   Selection Price  
CPU     AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor    
Motherboard     MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard    
Memory     G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-4266 CL19 Memory    
Storage     Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive    
Video Card     MSI Radeon RX 570 4 GB GAMING X Video Card  already own  
Case     Cooler Master HAF 912 Advanced ATX Mid Tower Case  already own  
Power Supply     EVGA GD (2019) 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply       

 

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Just now, triggerscold said:

im upgrading from a build i did like 10+yrs ago
i dont play online competitive games. i just want to be able to run new games. old machine isnt cutting the mustard.
let me know what you think of the parts i picked out. are they trash.

are there others in the same mid range that would be better? 

im not fancy or a RGB snob.

 


Budget (including currency): 1k-ish

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Fusion360, Cyberpunk2077, internet, 3dprinting

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 
(i3-2600 w/8gbram and gigabyte1660 gpu or rx570)
i think i can reuse my case, GPU and PSU.
so far my build in theory is the following. 

 

Component   Selection Price  
CPU     AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor    
Motherboard     MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard    
Memory     G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-4266 CL19 Memory    
Storage     Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive    
Video Card     MSI Radeon RX 570 4 GB GAMING X Video Card  already own  
Case     Cooler Master HAF 912 Advanced ATX Mid Tower Case  already own  
Power Supply     EVGA GD (2019) 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply       

 

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Why 4266 ram? 

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

Project Hot Box

CPU 13900k, Motherboard Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX, RAM CORSAIR Vengeance 4x16gb 5200 MHZ, GPU Zotac RTX 4090 Trinity OC, Case Fractal Pop Air XL, Storage Sabrent Rocket Q4 2tb, CORSAIR Force Series MP510 1920GB NVMe, CORSAIR FORCE Series MP510 960GB NVMe, PSU CORSAIR HX1000i, Cooling Corsair XC8 CPU block, Bykski GPU block, 360mm and 280mm radiator, Displays Odyssey G9, LG 34UC98-W 34-Inch,Keyboard Mountain Everest Max, Mouse Mountain Makalu 67, Sound AT2035, Massdrop 6xx headphones, Go XLR 

Oppbevaring

CPU i9-9900k, Motherboard, ASUS Rog Maximus Code XI, RAM, 48GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200 mhz (2x16)+(2x8) GPUs Asus ROG Strix 2070 8gb, PNY 1080, Nvidia 1080, Case Mining Frame, 2x Storage Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB, PSU Corsair RM1000x and RM850x, Cooling Asus Rog Ryuo 240 with Noctua NF-12 fans

 

Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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3800x, just a minor upgrade over 3700x, and why would you need an x570 board for that, just get a b550 and save some cash, 4266 memory is more then over the top, go with 3600

Don’t take everything I say seriously 

take it with a grain of s a l t

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1 minute ago, triggerscold said:

im upgrading from a build i did like 10+yrs ago
i dont play online competitive games. i just want to be able to run new games. old machine isnt cutting the mustard.
let me know what you think of the parts i picked out. are they trash.

are there others in the same mid range that would be better? 

im not fancy or a RGB snob.

 


Budget (including currency): 1k-ish

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Fusion360, Cyberpunk2077, internet, 3dprinting

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 
(i3-2600 w/8gbram and gigabyte1660 gpu or rx570)
i think i can reuse my case, GPU and PSU.
so far my build in theory is the following. 

 I am assuming that you are waiting for RTX 30 series to come down in price? The PSU is fine for now put when you upgrade your GPU you will need a new PSU.

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2 minutes ago, tire said:

3800x, just a minor upgrade over 3700x, and why would you need an x570 board for that, just get a b550 and save some cash, 4266 memory is more then over the top, go with 3600

the 3800 wasnt any cheaper than the 3700 it seems. same with ram. as for x570 seemed like a better choice for upgrading in my future.

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5 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

Why 4266 ram? 

 

3 minutes ago, triggerscold said:

it wasn't ridiculously expensive for 2 sticks. 70-90 per stick seemed reasonable. is 4266 an odd ram?

This is some way better ram my friend https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3200MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0143UM4TC/

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2 minutes ago, triggerscold said:

it wasn't ridiculously expensive for 2 sticks. 70-90 per stick seemed reasonable. is 4266 an odd ram?

Decent chance your motherboard won’t even be able to run it at 4266. Even if it did it compared to 3600 mhz it would not be noticable.

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Much better CPU, RAM is a usable speed and latency, PSU can be used in a GPU upgrade later, and $60 cheaper.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor $439.00 @ Newegg
Motherboard MSI MPG B550 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard $179.98 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory $109.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $216.95 @ Amazon
Case Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case  
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $104.67 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1050.59
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-23 13:15 EDT-0400  
1 minute ago, birdflyer said:

This is some way better ram my friend

While I use LPX on a 5800x, LPX is for sure hit or miss on Ryzen.

 

Edit: Grabbed wrong PSU

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

Project Hot Box

CPU 13900k, Motherboard Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX, RAM CORSAIR Vengeance 4x16gb 5200 MHZ, GPU Zotac RTX 4090 Trinity OC, Case Fractal Pop Air XL, Storage Sabrent Rocket Q4 2tb, CORSAIR Force Series MP510 1920GB NVMe, CORSAIR FORCE Series MP510 960GB NVMe, PSU CORSAIR HX1000i, Cooling Corsair XC8 CPU block, Bykski GPU block, 360mm and 280mm radiator, Displays Odyssey G9, LG 34UC98-W 34-Inch,Keyboard Mountain Everest Max, Mouse Mountain Makalu 67, Sound AT2035, Massdrop 6xx headphones, Go XLR 

Oppbevaring

CPU i9-9900k, Motherboard, ASUS Rog Maximus Code XI, RAM, 48GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200 mhz (2x16)+(2x8) GPUs Asus ROG Strix 2070 8gb, PNY 1080, Nvidia 1080, Case Mining Frame, 2x Storage Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB, PSU Corsair RM1000x and RM850x, Cooling Asus Rog Ryuo 240 with Noctua NF-12 fans

 

Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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Just now, birdflyer said:

 

This is some way better ram my friend https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0134EW7G8/

3000 is a tad low, I would go for 3600
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2TFKHx/crucial-ballistix-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k8g36c16u4b

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1 minute ago, triggerscold said:

the 3800 wasnt any cheaper than the 3700 it seems. same with ram. as for x570 seemed like a better choice for upgrading in my future.

ok well, b550 is kinda like x570 just only one m.2 slot is pcie gen 4, usually, and it just might not be as feature rich, stuff like, 10gb lan, water blocks, multiple m.2 slots, that sorta thing

Don’t take everything I say seriously 

take it with a grain of s a l t

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Just now, curiousmind34 said:

3000 is a tad low, I would go for 3600
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2TFKHx/crucial-ballistix-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k8g36c16u4b

Just realized I linked the wrong ram, I was thinking 3200Mhz

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3 minutes ago, triggerscold said:

the 3800 wasnt any cheaper than the 3700 it seems. same with ram. as for x570 seemed like a better choice for upgrading in my future.

Realistically AM4 is already end of life no matter which motherboard you buy. There is literaly no benefit (that I know of) with x570 unless you are going to have multiple gen 4 nvme drives.

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor $439.00 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler $59.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI MPG B550 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard $179.98 @ Amazon
Memory Team Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory $86.99 @ Amazon
Storage Kingston A2000 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $62.48 @ Amazon
Power Supply Enermax Revolution D.F. 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $110.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $939.42
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-23 13:18 EDT-0400  

 

geometry is hard
b550 > x570

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7 minutes ago, curiousmind34 said:

Realistically AM4 is already end of life no matter which motherboard you buy. There is literaly no benefit (that I know of) with x570 unless you are going to have multiple gen 4 nvme drives.

i get that but the drive i listed was just for the OS and to get the system running. i will want to add other nvme drvies. which is why i might prefer to go x570 so i can toss more into it vs getting a b550 and still needing to plug other drives into it when i wanna upgrade. seems like a backwards move for similar money.

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6 minutes ago, Downkey said:
PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor $439.00 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler $59.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI MPG B550 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard $179.98 @ Amazon
Memory Team Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory $86.99 @ Amazon
Storage Kingston A2000 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $62.48 @ Amazon
Power Supply Enermax Revolution D.F. 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $110.98 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $939.42
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-23 13:18 EDT-0400  

 

I'm glad you're around. Forgot CPU cooler again...

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

Project Hot Box

CPU 13900k, Motherboard Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX, RAM CORSAIR Vengeance 4x16gb 5200 MHZ, GPU Zotac RTX 4090 Trinity OC, Case Fractal Pop Air XL, Storage Sabrent Rocket Q4 2tb, CORSAIR Force Series MP510 1920GB NVMe, CORSAIR FORCE Series MP510 960GB NVMe, PSU CORSAIR HX1000i, Cooling Corsair XC8 CPU block, Bykski GPU block, 360mm and 280mm radiator, Displays Odyssey G9, LG 34UC98-W 34-Inch,Keyboard Mountain Everest Max, Mouse Mountain Makalu 67, Sound AT2035, Massdrop 6xx headphones, Go XLR 

Oppbevaring

CPU i9-9900k, Motherboard, ASUS Rog Maximus Code XI, RAM, 48GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200 mhz (2x16)+(2x8) GPUs Asus ROG Strix 2070 8gb, PNY 1080, Nvidia 1080, Case Mining Frame, 2x Storage Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB, PSU Corsair RM1000x and RM850x, Cooling Asus Rog Ryuo 240 with Noctua NF-12 fans

 

Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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3 minutes ago, triggerscold said:

i get that but the drive i listed was just for the OS and to get the system running. i will want to add other nvme drvies. which is why i might prefer to go x570 so i can toss more into it vs getting a b550 and still needing to plug other drives into it when i wanna upgrade. seems like a backwards move for same money.

Unless you're doing something that will actually fully populate PCIE 4.0, the motherboard you had in your build supports the same number of M.2 as the motherboard Downkey and I put in the build.

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I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

Project Hot Box

CPU 13900k, Motherboard Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX, RAM CORSAIR Vengeance 4x16gb 5200 MHZ, GPU Zotac RTX 4090 Trinity OC, Case Fractal Pop Air XL, Storage Sabrent Rocket Q4 2tb, CORSAIR Force Series MP510 1920GB NVMe, CORSAIR FORCE Series MP510 960GB NVMe, PSU CORSAIR HX1000i, Cooling Corsair XC8 CPU block, Bykski GPU block, 360mm and 280mm radiator, Displays Odyssey G9, LG 34UC98-W 34-Inch,Keyboard Mountain Everest Max, Mouse Mountain Makalu 67, Sound AT2035, Massdrop 6xx headphones, Go XLR 

Oppbevaring

CPU i9-9900k, Motherboard, ASUS Rog Maximus Code XI, RAM, 48GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200 mhz (2x16)+(2x8) GPUs Asus ROG Strix 2070 8gb, PNY 1080, Nvidia 1080, Case Mining Frame, 2x Storage Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB, PSU Corsair RM1000x and RM850x, Cooling Asus Rog Ryuo 240 with Noctua NF-12 fans

 

Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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Just now, triggerscold said:

i left that off as i planned on using the one that comes with the cpu. does aftermarket outperform the stock?

5800x doesn't come with one.

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

Project Hot Box

CPU 13900k, Motherboard Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX, RAM CORSAIR Vengeance 4x16gb 5200 MHZ, GPU Zotac RTX 4090 Trinity OC, Case Fractal Pop Air XL, Storage Sabrent Rocket Q4 2tb, CORSAIR Force Series MP510 1920GB NVMe, CORSAIR FORCE Series MP510 960GB NVMe, PSU CORSAIR HX1000i, Cooling Corsair XC8 CPU block, Bykski GPU block, 360mm and 280mm radiator, Displays Odyssey G9, LG 34UC98-W 34-Inch,Keyboard Mountain Everest Max, Mouse Mountain Makalu 67, Sound AT2035, Massdrop 6xx headphones, Go XLR 

Oppbevaring

CPU i9-9900k, Motherboard, ASUS Rog Maximus Code XI, RAM, 48GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200 mhz (2x16)+(2x8) GPUs Asus ROG Strix 2070 8gb, PNY 1080, Nvidia 1080, Case Mining Frame, 2x Storage Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB, PSU Corsair RM1000x and RM850x, Cooling Asus Rog Ryuo 240 with Noctua NF-12 fans

 

Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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8 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

5800x doesn't come with one.

oh wow thats nuts i just assumed it did. my 3700 did maybe i should go for that.
thx for the help guys. ill look into the 3700,b550, team vulcan memory and the kingston m.2 drive!

i havent ever used kingston or team vulcan, might have to give those a try!



ok so yall got me more interested in these vs the 570 and the 3800
so far im leaning towards these as i have used these brands before. but with how cheap that team vulcan ram is i could just get new ones if it craps out haha.

 

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