Running ethernet cable

[MrSycyS]

Hello!

I hope I reached the right discussion group.
So...building a house, going to run electrical wires and I want ethernet of course in every room
Planning on using "Gembird CAT 6 FTP/STP". (future proof?) It says it's shielded and is cheap, for 100 meters it costs 26 euro. Cat 7 doubles in price.

 

Street I'm on will not have wired internet connection for many years, so I will be using mobile. 4G+ (up to 160mbps). (*Possible 5G in future?)  In house I plan on using some wi-fi mesh system.

Basically there would be a central room with internet modem by window. In this room I wanted to have some 4-6 ethernet ports in wall just next to the said window and physically connect individual room when necessary with small ethernet cable.

Bungalow house. Wiring will go through attic and come down/go up the walls. Walls are aerated concrete blocks. Metal roof.
I get confused with electrical wire proximity with ethernet cables....like what distances are acceptable when running them? I know that they should not run parallel and cross at 90 degree angles, but if it's shielded, can I run them close by?
Maybe is there a better way of connecting individual rooms with it if using mobile modem?

Do I need special outlets in I use cat6/7 wires?

I'm not an electrician and haven't done wiring in house, but I am a carpenter...

I'll appreciate any help,

Thanks!


 

[Caennanu]

Gday Mr,

 

Personally i have done a decent amount of wiring in / around my own house, including wiring next / near fencing for horses. This fencing has electric wires running 10.000 volts so that the horses don't escape, and this is really the only time i had some issues with proximity. i'm using 100% copper FTP CAT6 cable there, as they are for CCTV cam's which are powered over ethernet. 

 

The issue there i had was with distance, when i was within 15cm of the fence, it would start flickering to the rythm of the fence system.

 

The rest of the house i have had no issues with electricity, not even with the 330Volt connection, but the runs aren't that long. So my experience says not to run them parallel as a good measure, but if you keep a decent distance apart from the electrical (5cm+) it should be fine.

[Caennanu]

Also, i would recommend using keystone jacks. They are so much simpler when installing wallplates and the likes, and are a little more flexible when you screw up

[ObsidianAura]

Hi I put CAT 7 cables put in my walls before I moved in as part of a rewire. CAT 7 is kind of a waste of money IMO. Consumer networking equipment hasn't embraced it even 6 years after I put it in, and with WIFI 6E were getting close to those speeds now, although theoretically CAT 7 could do 50Gbps. Plus CAT 7 is more difficult to terminate. CAT 6 is fine.

 

Buy some shielded ethernet, then you can go as close to your wiring as 10cm. If not you can only get as close as 40cm

[MrSycyS]

1 minute ago, ObsidianAura said:

Hi I put CAT 7 cables put in my walls before I moved in as part of a rewire. CAT 7 is kind of a waste of money IMO. Consumer networking equipment hasn't embraced it even 6 years after I put it in, and with WIFI 6E were getting close to those speeds now, although theoretically CAT could do 50Gbps. Plus CAT 7 is more difficult to terminate. CAT 6 is fine.

 

Buy some shielded ethernet, then you can go as close to your wiring as 10cm. If not you can only get as close as 40cm

What about connecting the rooms? Would a simple RJ45 female wall connectors be sufficient at all ends?
What I really want to know, if my idea is not stupid about just making a bridge with cable and just putting modem at one end and pc at the other.

[ObsidianAura]

I think bridging would work, however, but it'd be better to put a cheap gigabit switch in between those ports. That's exactly what I did. Then you don't need to worry about degradation so much, and you have the option to plug more in. In a home environment I don't think congestion would be an issue.

 

My internet line comes in at my office. Which plugs into my router, the router then plugs into the one of the two RJ45 sockets in the wall.
Both of those go through the walls down to the Living room, I only needed 1 but I was running the cable so I though why not stick two in. Plugged in on the living room side is a switch, which connects to games consoles, Ethernet backhaul for my mesh access point etc.

Next to the two ports is another two ports, those go through to the dining room. I have one ethernet cable going from my switch to one of those ports. That makes one socket live in the dining room. The other is free for sending HDMI over ethernet to a TV in the dining room (I never got round to trying that though, but at least the option is there.)

 

Doing it this way it gave me more options and avoids having a room with loads of ports on the wall.