Advice for first build

[GA89]

Budget (including currency): Max 1000EUR

Country: Latvia

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: It will be used for gaming, I will play any game I get my hands on basically. Most demanding, that come to mind are Arma 3 and EFT.

Other details: I have mouse, keyboard and monitor (AOC 27G2U/BK). Don't have any existing parts, because I am upgrading from laptop (Asus N550JK). Planning to buy at the end of this month or next month. Budget is for hardware and case excluding GPU for obvious reasons. I'm thinking about getting older GPU for now (any suggestions? Almost anything would be an upgrade from my laptops GTX 850M ) and getting a better one later, when I can find one for normal price. 

 

I want as futureproof PC as possible staying as much under 1000EUR as possible. I did some research and made a part list. Would like advice on what I should save money on, what I should spend more on and what I should swap out. Here is a table I made with parts and links to online stores I plan to buy from. Any row with 2 entries is 2 variants, Prefered column shows variant I am thinking about going with.

 

Part	Name	Cheap	Expensive	Prefered	Links
Motherboard	MSI MPG Z490 GAMING PLUS	185	185	185	https://m79.lv/datorukomponentes/pamatplates/msi-mpg-z490-gaming-plus--motherboard--atx--lga1200sockel--z490-4719072722005#
CPU	Intel Core i7-10700K	332	332	332	https://www.1a.lv/p/procesors-intel-core-i7-10700k/8sqs
RAM	Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M2B3000C15R DDR4 16 GB	86		86	https://www.1a.lv/p/operativa-atmina-ram-corsair-vengeance-lpx-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15r-ddr4-16-gb/on?cat=2vj&index=1
	Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M2B3000C15 DDR4 16 GB		109		https://www.1a.lv/p/operativa-atmina-ram-corsair-vengeance-lpx-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15-ddr4-16-gb/oo?cat=2vj&index=5
SSD	Samsung 980 PRO SSD 500GB M2		133.65	133.65	https://www.1a.lv/p/samsung-980-pro-ssd-500gb/9rp8?cat=2vl&index=2
	Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB M2	86			https://www.1a.lv/p/samsung-970-evo-plus-500gb-m-2-pcie-mz-v7s500bw/3csz?cat=2vl&index=1
CPU Cooler	NOCTUA NH-D15S		87		https://m79.lv/datorukomponentes/procesorudzesetaji/noctua-nhd15s
	Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO	30		30	https://m79.lv/datorukomponentes/ventilatori/cooler-master-hyper-212-evo-ver2-rr2v2e18pkr1
PSU	Corsair RMx Series RM650x 650 W	125			https://m79.lv/datorukomponentes/barosanasbloki/psu-rm650x-650w-80gold-fmodular-atx-eu-0843591034821-cp9020178eu-joinedit24816124
	Corsair RM750x 750W		139	139	https://220.lv/lv/datortehnika/datoru-komponentes/pamatplates-psu/?id=5766821
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P360A Black	77	77	77	https://www.1a.lv/p/phanteks-eclipse-p360a-black/9ogu

Total EUR

921

1062.65

982.65

 

Here is PCpartpicker list with prefered parts, chose Germany, because prices are close to mine 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i7-10700K 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor	€317.99 @ Mindfactory
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler	€33.15 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard	MSI MPG Z490 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard	€168.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL15 Memory	€93.15 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage	Samsung 980 Pro 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	€123.00 @ Amazon Deutschland
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P360A ATX Mid Tower Case	€75.89 @ Caseking
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	€130.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€942.98
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-04-13 11:40 CEST+0200

 

[Speedbird]

I see no graphics card in the list. The integrated graphics on the 10700K are worse than your laptop's GTX 850M, so I see no point in using that. Or are you hoping to find a used graphics card?

 

Edit: misread post. For used graphics cards, look for a GTX 1080 Ti.

[GA89]

18 minutes ago, Speedbird said:

For used graphics cards, look for a GTX 1080 Ti.

What would be ok price for used GTX 1080 TI? Did a quick search and found one for 650EUR, it seems high.

[Speedbird]

15 minutes ago, GA89 said:

What would be ok price for used GTX 1080 TI? Did a quick search and found one for 650EUR, it seems high.

That's about what they cost here as well. It's definitely higher than they should be, as are prices for just about any graphics card whatsoever. If you can wait for prices to go back to normal levels, which no one can say when, I would suggest waiting.

[GA89]

18 minutes ago, Speedbird said:

That's about what they cost here as well. It's definitely higher than they should be, as are prices for just about any graphics card whatsoever. If you can wait for prices to go back to normal levels, which no one can say when, I would suggest waiting.

Would it be stupid to get something like used GTX 1050TI for 150EUR until I can get better card?

[Cheburek]

8 minutes ago, GA89 said:

Would it be stupid to get something like used GTX 1050TI for 150EUR until I can get better card?

Yeah,the GTX 1050 ti is a certain upgrade and is quite decent,it can run nearly all games,just not at a good resolution or framerate necessarily.

 

I think looking for a gtx 1080 ti is setting your expectations too high,maybe look for a RX 570,580-GTX 1060-GTX 970 if you can find for an affordable price.

[GA89]

47 minutes ago, Cheburek said:

Yeah,the GTX 1050 ti is a certain upgrade and is quite decent,it can run nearly all games,just not at a good resolution or framerate necessarily.

 

I think looking for a gtx 1080 ti is setting your expectations too high,maybe look for a RX 570,580-GTX 1060-GTX 970 if you can find for an affordable price.

Thanks for advice, I will look into it. Also thanks for suggestions for AMD, I have no experience with those, so no idea what to look at.

[Cheburek]

28 minutes ago, GA89 said:

Thanks for advice, I will look into it. Also thanks for suggestions for AMD, I have no experience with those, so no idea what to look at.

The RX 500 series card were often reccomended at the start of the chip shortage because they could have been found for much cheaper than their Nvidia counterparts.(ex: Rx 570 found at same price as gtx 1050 ti despite being nearly twice as powerful) but scalpers/normal people have caught onto that and now they are being sold for 300€ and up.

Although I have found and bought an offer for an Rx 580 for 120€ , so it is worth  looking for AMD cards after all.

[GA89]

5 hours ago, Cheburek said:

The RX 500 series card were often reccomended at the start of the chip shortage because they could have been found for much cheaper than their Nvidia counterparts.(ex: Rx 570 found at same price as gtx 1050 ti despite being nearly twice as powerful) but scalpers/normal people have caught onto that and now they are being sold for 300€ and up.

Although I have found and bought an offer for an Rx 580 for 120€ , so it is worth  looking for AMD cards after all.

Did a quick search and it seems I might be able to get used RX570 for 150EUR, will do some more searching later today.