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Like many, I've been trying to get my hands on any GPU and striking out. The 90% complete PC here is laughing at me.  So I was going to resort to paying the inflated values of not going direct.  All new but not from 3rd party sellers. My options are:

 

  1. MSI 1650 Super Gaming - $400
  2. ASUS TUF 3060 (non-Ti) - $900
  3. Powercolor RX 6700 XT - $900

Any thoughts? I've checked all the PC store around me and the best I found was a place with a non-Super 1650 and even they wanted $350. Even thought of going the bot route but didn't know they cost so much to rent.  Told my son he could have his first Gaming PC for the summer and so far I'm doubtful of getting a GPU.  Thanks.  

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dang... those are waaaaay too much... Sadly pretty much the only way to obtain a msrp GPU is to buy a pre built with one of those GPUs.

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But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, JeremyDS77 said:

Like many, I've been trying to get my hands on any GPU and striking out. The 90% complete PC here is laughing at me.  So I was going to resort to paying the inflated values of not going direct.  All new but not from 3rd party sellers. My options are:

 

  1. MSI 1650 Super Gaming - $400
  2. ASUS TUF 3060 (non-Ti) - $900
  3. Powercolor RX 6700 XT - $900

Any thoughts? I've checked all the PC store around me and the best I found was a place with a non-Super 1650 and even they wanted $350. Even thought of going the bot route but didn't know they cost so much to rent.  Told my son he could have his first Gaming PC for the summer and so far I'm doubtful of getting a GPU.  Thanks.  

If you want a PC by this summer, your best option is prebuilt like this one
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali473/p/N82E16883360058?Description=3070 prebuilt&recaptcha=pass

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4 minutes ago, JeremyDS77 said:

Like many, I've been trying to get my hands on any GPU and striking out. The 90% complete PC here is laughing at me.  So I was going to resort to paying the inflated values of not going direct.  All new but not from 3rd party sellers. My options are:

 

  1. MSI 1650 Super Gaming - $400
  2. ASUS TUF 3060 (non-Ti) - $900
  3. Powercolor RX 6700 XT - $900

Any thoughts? I've checked all the PC store around me and the best I found was a place with a non-Super 1650 and even they wanted $350. Even thought of going the bot route but didn't know they cost so much to rent.  Told my son he could have his first Gaming PC for the summer and so far I'm doubtful of getting a GPU.  Thanks.  

maybe get a cheap used GPU (like the GTX 770) and then when prices fall snag a 3060ti for less than 500

geometry is hard
b550 > x570

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(My recommendation)

Get a placeholder card that is at least capable of playing the games your son wants to play at 60fps med settings.

If you want my recommendation for a card get a used gtx 770 on ebay and upgrade to the 3060 later. I am using this route and am going to be upgrading my gpu as soon as I can find one (This fall or whenever the shortage is over.)

 

The 770 or 780s go for around 100$ and can run 1080p games at 60fps as long as you keep your expectations in check 🙂

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Just now, Downkey said:

maybe get a cheap used GPU (like the GTX 770) and then when prices fall snag a 3060ti for less than 500

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2 minutes ago, SignatureSigner said:

(My recommendation)

Get a placeholder card that is at least capable of playing the games your son wants to play at 60fps med settings.

If you want my recommendation for a card get a used gtx 770 on ebay and upgrade to the 3060 later. I am using this route and am going to be upgrading my gpu as soon as I can find one (This fall or whenever the shortage is over.)

 

The 770 or 780s go for around 100$ and can run 1080p games at 60fps as long as you keep your expectations in check 🙂

Don't forget about r9 290's/390's. Perform better now than they did at launch and are usually the same price. They do use more power and run hotter but as long as you don't take the blower models it's all fine. Also due to the temp and power increase they tend to be even cheaper for better performance than a 780.

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I'm always leery of buying used electronics for some reason. Got burned in the past once, but I hear all of you.  I'm just not optimistic on the prices coming down anytime soon.  There is a guy up the street selling a NIB 1660 Super that he bought from a scalper before scoring a better card through Newegg.  He's asking $375. The card is from PNY who I've never used but read mixed things about online.

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17 minutes ago, JeremyDS77 said:

I'm always leery of buying used electronics for some reason. Got burned in the past once, but I hear all of you.  I'm just not optimistic on the prices coming down anytime soon.  There is a guy up the street selling a NIB 1660 Super that he bought from a scalper before scoring a better card through Newegg.  He's asking $375. The card is from PNY who I've never used but read mixed things about online.

PNY is fine.

 

also, i'd rather buy 2 used $300 gpus, risking one of them is dead (ebay has buyer protection anyway so you should be able to get a refund in that case), than spending $900 on a 3060 that's meant to cost $350.

 

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