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[ColtK]

I have never built a PC and I have 800 dollars to build a PC can you help me with choosing the specs Im going to be gaming on triple A games like apex legends and tom clancy's rainbow six seige. If possible I would like a smaller sized tower.

[Downkey]

24 minutes ago, ColtK said:

I have never built a PC and I have 800 dollars to build a PC can you help me with choosing the specs Im going to be gaming on triple A games like apex legends and tom clancy's rainbow six seige. If possible I would like a smaller sized tower.

When do you plan on buying this? There is a global graphics card shortage atm.

 

also what country are you in?

[Ar558a]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$219.94 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler	$30.40 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	$149.99 @ Newegg
Memory	Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$107.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$139.99 @ Amazon
Case	Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case	$59.80 @ B&H
Power Supply	EVGA SuperNOVA GA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$111.44 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$819.55
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-24 21:11 EDT-0400

This looks like a reasonable setup for $800ish. A GPU is not realistic for $800 at mo. Depending on what Resolution you play at I would have recommended a 3060 for 1080, a 3070 for 1440p but these would cost $1k plus in todays money. Even at MSRP they would push the budget to $1150 - $1300 but you aren't going to play AAA titles for much less than this. 

[Downkey]

8 minutes ago, Ar558a said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$219.94 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler	$30.40 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	$149.99 @ Newegg
Memory	Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$107.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$139.99 @ Amazon
Case	Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case	$59.80 @ B&H
Power Supply	EVGA SuperNOVA GA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$111.44 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$819.55
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-24 21:11 EDT-0400

This looks like a reasonable setup for $800ish. A GPU is not realistic for $800 at mo. Depending on what Resolution you play at I would have recommended a 3060 for 1080, a 3070 for 1440p but these would cost $1k plus in todays money. Even at MSRP they would push the budget to $1150 - $1300 but you aren't going to play AAA titles for much less than this. 

Thing is that this list isn’t helpful, due too the lack of the GPU.

[curiousmind34]

19 minutes ago, Ar558a said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$219.94 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler	$30.40 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	$149.99 @ Newegg
Memory	Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$107.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$139.99 @ Amazon
Case	Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case	$59.80 @ B&H
Power Supply	EVGA SuperNOVA GA 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$111.44 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$819.55
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-03-24 21:11 EDT-0400

This looks like a reasonable setup for $800ish. A GPU is not realistic for $800 at mo. Depending on what Resolution you play at I would have recommended a 3060 for 1080, a 3070 for 1440p but these would cost $1k plus in todays money. Even at MSRP they would push the budget to $1150 - $1300 but you aren't going to play AAA titles for much less than this. 

R5 3600 is not worth it compared to the i5 10400/10400f when it is at $220. Also, if they didn’t have a gpu they would need to buy a cheap one for now.

[Ar558a]

16 minutes ago, Downkey said:

Thing is that this list isn’t helpful, due too the lack of the GPU.

You can't build a AAA capable gaming rig today for $800, it's impossible when 1060s are going for $500. If you can do it feel free to show us how..

[Downkey]

4 minutes ago, Ar558a said:

You can't build a AAA capable gaming rig today for $800, it's impossible when 1060s are going for $500. If you can do it feel free to show us how..

Well you can’t, but showing a $800 GPU less build isn’t going to help.

[Nena Trinity]

with current market I advice you to buy a prebuilt unless you get a good GPU deal somewhere...

 

Just so ya know both those games run fine even on a FX CPU so you could even buy a i3 and spend the vast majority on the graphics card...  

[Guest]

11 hours ago, curiousmind34 said:

R5 3600 is not worth it compared to the i5 10400/10400f when it is at $220. Also, if they didn’t have a gpu they would need to buy a cheap one for now.

You would need a Z490 board or a '500' series chipset though. If you run the 10400/F on a B460 chipset then you are losing performance. The R5 3600 will be faster in that situation. So you would have to look at the overall cost, not just the cpu cost.

[curiousmind34]

41 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

You would need a Z490 board or a '500' series chipset though. If you run the 10400/F on a B460 chipset then you are losing performance. The R5 3600 will be faster in that situation. So you would have to look at the overall cost, not just the cpu cost.

Did they say they were overlclocking? If so, you are probably right. 

https://www.adorama.com/inbx8110400f.html?sterm=WNM0Wo38-xyLR8twUx0Mo387UkEXWCy1z1EdXo0&utm_source=rflaid912925
The CPU is literally 70 dollars cheaper, there has to be a good bit of justification to spend that much more.

[Guest]

50 minutes ago, curiousmind34 said:

Did they say they were overlclocking? If so, you are probably right. 

https://www.adorama.com/inbx8110400f.html?sterm=WNM0Wo38-xyLR8twUx0Mo387UkEXWCy1z1EdXo0&utm_source=rflaid912925
The CPU is literally 70 dollars cheaper, there has to be a good bit of justification to spend that much more.

What I mean is there is a difference in gaming performance when using 2666MHz ram vs 3200MHz ram with the 10400F. To run the ram at 3200 speed you would need a Z490 board or a 500 series board. 

[curiousmind34]

42 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

What I mean is there is a difference in gaming performance when using 2666MHz ram vs 3200MHz ram with the 10400F. To run the ram at 3200 speed you would need a Z490 board or a 500 series board. 

Literally less than 5%, but yes it exists.

[Downkey]

13 minutes ago, curiousmind34 said:

Literally less than 5%, but yes it exists.

more like 15 - 25% 

There are MASSIVE gains with 3200 over 2666

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, curiousmind34 said:

Literally less than 5%, but yes it exists.

Nope it is much more. The video posted by Downkey shows the performance gap with 2666 vs 3200 ram.