Upgrade from 2500k

[dzidze]

Budget (including currency): around $400

 

So finally Im looking to upgrade from the 2500k.
Im using the PC for gaming, programming and some 3d rendering like testing stuff, no heavy overnight rendering.
I have 1060 6G and I don't plan to change it in the next 2 years, I play on 1080p 60
I was looking into the 3600x($240 without fan) or the newer 5600x ($427). The price difference is almost double while looking at benchmarks its not that huge.
My concern is if the 5600x is better for the future where I might upgrade the GPU.
I have not looked that much into Intel but I could take a look if there is something better there.

[JamesTheFolf]

19 minutes ago, dzidze said:

Budget (including currency): around $400

 

So finally Im looking to upgrade from the 2500k.
Im using the PC for gaming, programming and some 3d rendering like testing stuff, no heavy overnight rendering.
I have 1060 6G and I don't plan to change it in the next 2 years, I play on 1080p 60
I was looking into the 3600x($240 without fan) or the newer 5600x ($427). The price difference is almost double while looking at benchmarks its not that huge.
My concern is if the 5600x is better for the future where I might upgrade the GPU.
I have not looked that much into Intel but I could take a look if there is something better there.

Both the 3600x and 5600x will be good for the future, cause the 3600x also has Pcie Gen 4.

[SupaKomputa]

If you want to upgrade prioritize the platform first.

Any 4 cores upgrade will be better than 2500k. You can upgrade later.

$427 is not worth it for 5600x.

Wait a little longer for the supply to replenish, or use 3600 instead.

If you want cheaper and readily available you can go to Aliexpress.

[dzidze]

4 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

If you want to upgrade prioritize the platform first.

Any 4 cores upgrade will be better than 2500k. You can upgrade later.

$427 is not worth it for 5600x.

Wait a little longer for the supply to replenish, or use 3600 instead.

If you want cheaper and readily available you can go to Aliexpress.

From Aliexpress you mean to get something that will work on the current socket?

[SupaKomputa]

[Emergence177013]

3 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

middle left one is a fake, just a heads up

[Emergence177013]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$194.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard	ASRock B550M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$80.98 @ Amazon
Memory	Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$71.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$54.94 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$402.90
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-06 08:21 EST-0500

This should be fine but I don't know if you have decent storage which you can stick in this system, though once ram prices settle down you could get a 128gb ssd

 

you could also get a better cooler with the amount shaved off from ram though

[SupaKomputa]

28 minutes ago, Emergence177013 said:

middle left one is a fake, just a heads up

Fake? how?

[Emergence177013]

Just now, SupaKomputa said:

Fake? how?

Triangle thing is too large for a socket am4 chip I'm pretty sure

[SupaKomputa]

13 minutes ago, Emergence177013 said:

Triangle thing is too large for a socket am4 chip I'm pretty sure

So far i haven't heard of fake ryzen cpu.

[Emergence177013]

 

3 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

So far i haven't heard of fake ryzen cpu.

if people can make fake intel chips why not fake amd chips?

[SupaKomputa]

21 minutes ago, Emergence177013 said:

 

if people can make fake intel chips why not fake amd chips?

Everything can be faked, make sure you check the sellers reputation, rating and comments before buying online.

Also make sure you can always get your money back if it weren't real.

Many online sites have buyers protection, including Aliexpress.

The sellers won't get the money unless you authorize it.
So before the time expired you should test it, and make a dispute if you're getting the wrong product.

If it says Ryzen 3600 and you get Athlon 3000, you should get your money back (even 3x the value).
 

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You are also eligible for AliExpress Buyer Protection when:
You've received items that are not as described (e.g. you ordered a 32GB MP3 Player but you received a 16GB MP3 Player) and/or your negotiations for a refund with the seller were not successful.
You did not receive your order within the stated delivery time and/or your negotiations for a refund from the seller were not successful.
You received fake items that were promised to be genuine (e.g. the item was described as an 'iPhone 5', but you received a 'HiPhone5' copy). In this case, you are able to get 3 times your money back in compensation

https://www.aliexpress.com/buyerprotection/how_to_be_eligible.html

 

[Emergence177013]

36 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

Everything can be faked, make sure you check the sellers reputation, rating and comments before buying online.

Also make sure you can always get your money back if it weren't real.

Many online sites have buyers protection, including Aliexpress.

The sellers won't get the money unless you authorize it.
So before the time expired you should test it, and make a dispute if you're getting the wrong product.

If it says Ryzen 3600 and you get Athlon 3000, you should get your money back (even 3x the value).
 

 

thanks for the knowledge, the fakes may damage the socket though so i would say still try to be careful around cpus

[SupaKomputa]

Just now, Emergence177013 said:

thanks for the knowledge, the fakes may damage the socket though so i would say still try to be careful around cpus

AFAIK those Intel chips, the label are grinded first then laser etched, i don't know if this possible with Ryzen since it has some fragile pins.

Plus Ryzen have soldered IHS, so in the case of they replacing it with a fake one, it would need more effort than Intel, and possibly damaging the product.

People can be naive, they authorized the payment without checking the product. Those often fell into the trap.

[dzidze]

2 hours ago, Emergence177013 said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$194.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard	ASRock B550M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$80.98 @ Amazon
Memory	Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$71.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$54.94 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$402.90
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-06 08:21 EST-0500

This should be fine but I don't know if you have decent storage which you can stick in this system, though once ram prices settle down you could get a 128gb ssd

 

you could also get a better cooler with the amount shaved off from ram though

I have storage, I was just asking about the cpus if the difference in money is worth it, also I cant buy from newegg

[Nena Trinity]

Ryzen 3600 + Gigabyte A520M / ASRock B450M Pro4 (the latter if overclocking)

or

10400F + cheapest Z490

with

2x16GB kit of 3200-3600MHz kit (since then its dual-rank)