Help overclocking an amd system

[Digideath]

I don't know what im doing with an amd system. An intel system i can easily overclock the cpu. Just bump the boost speeds up. Job done. But ive been looking and playing around with my bios and ive figured out that its just not that simple on amd. There are certain options that have got me like pbo. I also noticed that pbo has multiple different options. I also noticed 2 other settings in with pbo. I can't remember what their called.

I noticed that if i run prime 95 blend, i get an all core boost of 4.1ghz. However if i run prime 95 small fft i only get an all core boost of 3.8ghz. Thats because of avx and the wattage limitations of the chip at stock (to the best of my knowlege).

What im trying to do is increase that all core boost a little higher without pushing the chip too hard. I'm also aware that these amd chips dont have the kind of headroom that intel chips have but im only looking for a small boost.

 

[Analog]

2 minutes ago, Digideath said:

I don't know what im doing with an amd system. An intel system i can easily overclock the cpu. Just bump the boost speeds up. Job done. But ive been looking and playing around with my bios and ive figured out that its just not that simple on amd. There are certain options that have got me like pbo. I also noticed that pbo has multiple different options. I also noticed 2 other settings in with pbo. I can't remember what their called.

I noticed that if i run prime 95 blend, i get an all core boost of 4.1ghz. However if i run prime 95 small fft i only get an all core boost of 3.8ghz. Thats because of avx and the wattage limitations of the chip at stock (to the best of my knowlege).

What im trying to do is increase that all core boost a little higher without pushing the chip too hard. I'm also aware that these amd chips dont have the kind of headroom that intel chips have but im only looking for a small boost.

 

It would be great if you told us what the processor is exactly, also what is the motherboard and RAM that you have. Ryzen behaves differently and has different optimal settings  depending on the generation. 

[Digideath]

Just now, Analog said:

It would be great if you told us what the processor is exactly, also what is the motherboard and RAM that you have. Ryzen behaves differently and has different optimal settings  depending on the generation. 

Sorry about that. I forgot that part.

cpu: ryzen 7 3700x
Mobo: msi mpg b550 gaming edge wifi
Ram: Kingston hyper x fury rgb 32gb 2x16gb 3200mhz

[Analog]

11 minutes ago, Digideath said:

Sorry about that. I forgot that part.

cpu: ryzen 7 3700x
Mobo: msi mpg b550 gaming edge wifi
Ram: Kingston hyper x fury rgb 32gb 2x16gb 3200mhz

 

I don't really do PBO overclocking so I can't really help you with that. But for an all-core overclock here is what you need to know. Realistically the clocks speed that you will be able to achieve with a 3700X is around 4.3GHz all-core with 4.4GHz being pretty much the best that can be done without a custom loop. There are some golden chips out there doing 4.5GHz easy, but it all depends on the silicon lottery. Don't exceed 1.4V on the core, better yet, keep it 1.375V or under in order to avoid any degradation. For the SOC voltage don't go above 1.2V, preferably stick around 1.15V and under.  make sure you are running the latest BIOS for your board before you start overclocking. Keep your temperature in check. You can do so with HWiNFO64. 

[Digideath]

5 minutes ago, Analog said:

 

I don't really do PBO overclocking so I can't really help you with that. But for an all-core overclock here is what you need to know. Realistically the clocks speed that you will be able to achieve with a 3700X is around 4.3GHz all-core with 4.4GHz being pretty much the best that can be done without a custom loop. There are some golden chips out there doing 4.5GHz easy, but it all depends on the silicon lottery. Don't exceed 1.4V on the core, better yet, keep it 1.375V or under in order to avoid any degradation. For the SOC voltage don't go above 1.2V, preferably stick around 1.15V and under.  make sure you are running the latest BIOS for your board before you start overclocking. Keep your temperature in check. You can do so with HWiNFO64. 

Thanks for the numbers. That was a part of what i was looking for. And as for the rest, it makes sense. I'll give it a go and see what i can get. Btw i already have hwinfo64 in my system. I swear by it.

The reason im trying to get that little bit extra is this.

I have 32 gigs of ram and a 3700x for a reason. I write my own rave music. I write single tracks, big long half hour mixes and hour long mixes usually with my own matterial. Now when you have a big project in front of you with multiple samples and loops and beatbox and synth with all the settings i apply to those, that 32gig starts to look really small. I have litterally filled it before. Same goes with cpu. If i try to play back a big project like that at run time, it maxes out my cpu (yes all 16 threads) and still stuters like crazy. Atm im limited to the size and complexity of each mix i do by my cpu and ram.

[Analog]

1 minute ago, Digideath said:

Thanks for the numbers. That was a part of what i was looking for. And as for the rest, it makes sense. I'll give it a go and see what i can get. Btw i already have hwinfo64 in my system. I swear by it.

The reason im trying to get that little bit extra is this.

I have 32 gigs of ram and a 3700x for a reason. I write my own rave music. I write single tracks, big long half hour mixes and hour long mixes usually with my own matterial. Now when you have a big project in front of you with multiple samples and loops and beatbox and synth with all the settings i apply to those, that 32gig starts to look really small. I have litterally filled it before. Same goes with cpu. If i try to play back a big project like that at run time, it maxes out my cpu (yes all 16 threads) and still stuters like crazy. Atm im limited to the size and complexity of each mix i do by my cpu and ram.

 

I am not sure that clocking this chip to 4.4GHz will resolve your stuttering issues, but surely it will perform quite a bit better. Happy overclocking!  

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Digideath said:

I don't know what im doing with an amd system. An intel system i can easily overclock the cpu. Just bump the boost speeds up. Job done. But ive been looking and playing around with my bios and ive figured out that its just not that simple on amd. There are certain options that have got me like pbo. I also noticed that pbo has multiple different options. I also noticed 2 other settings in with pbo. I can't remember what their called.

I noticed that if i run prime 95 blend, i get an all core boost of 4.1ghz. However if i run prime 95 small fft i only get an all core boost of 3.8ghz. Thats because of avx and the wattage limitations of the chip at stock (to the best of my knowlege).

What im trying to do is increase that all core boost a little higher without pushing the chip too hard. I'm also aware that these amd chips dont have the kind of headroom that intel chips have but im only looking for a small boost.

 

Righto!
 

So simply open Ryzen Master and increase the EDC limit. According to temps, you should get higher boost clocks without having to do anything else. 

 

But to really be any more of help to you, posting your system specs would help greatly.