obs Persistent stutter in multiple streaming programs

[Mattwhoplaysdrums]

Hello all, I come to you in a time of need.

 

I want to say, before I get into this, that I have worked on this issue for over 3 weeks, almost all day long. I'm stumped and I've tried a lot of stuff and have spent a lot of money. I'm adept and excitement experienced with OBS and I'm not tech illiterate, I'm pretty good with this kind of stuff in general but by no means an expert.

 

I have a persistent stutter with streaming software (obs, slobs, xsplit etc) regardless of encoder, settings, etc. I don't even have to be streaming for the issue to present itself in the preview, even without a game open.

 

It normally goes like this: I start streaming, everything is fine, game and obs running with plenty of resource overhead. About 30 to 40 minutes in, the preview starts stuttering and looks like it's running at sub 60fps, but one isn't dropping, skipping, or missing frames, no encoder overload, no resource spike, no indication of an issue otherwise. A few minutes later, the stream will also start stuttering, but it stays smooth at first when this happens. 

 

I run 3 monitors at 1080@60, so weird refresh rate mismatches aren't the issue. I started having this on a  system that was a 1700x on an mos b350m bazooka mobo, 16 GB ram, gtx 1070 fe with a sata sad. I tried hundreds of combinations of settings across windows, OBS, nvidia control panel, and my bios. I tried with a single monitor and only a mouse and keyboard, multiple fresh installs off windows and drivers, made sure my bios was updated, everything .So I built a new system. 

 

The new system is a 3700x, asus x570 tuf gaming plus WiFi mobo, 4 8GB corsair vengeance 3200mhz cl16 ram, MSI ventus x2 3060ti, Samsung 970 Evo plus 500GB nvme, new corsair hx750, fresh windows install. It has the exact same issues.

 

I'll provide you any info you need and  add a list of everything I've tried when I wake up later. Thank you for your time

[flashiling]

what's your internet speed and or bitrate, if the bitrate is too high it can lead to studdering

[OrlandoBlyyat]

1 minute ago, flashiling said:

what's your internet speed and or bitrate, if the bitrate is too high it can lead to studdering

This does not matter, as its stuttering in the preview.

[flashiling]

2 minutes ago, OrlandoBlyyat said:

This does not matter, as its stuttering in the preview.

internet speed no, but bitrate should still have an effect in the preview?

i'm not an expert here either so i could be wrong

[Pixian]

Have you tried watching it from a different device? Your stream may not stutter from a viewer standpoint.

[Mattwhoplaysdrums]

13 minutes ago, Pixian said:

Have you tried watching it from a different device? Your stream may not stutter from a viewer standpoint.

I'm monitoring it on a separate computer and a phone. That's how I know it starts with the preview but doesn't immediately translate to the stream, it takes a few minutes

[Pixian]

Just now, Mattwhoplaysdrums said:

I'm monitoring it on a separate computer and a phone. That's how I know it starts with the preview but doesn't immediately translate to the stream, it takes a few minutes

All I can say is what @flashiling has said about the bit-rate

[Mattwhoplaysdrums]

15 minutes ago, flashiling said:

internet speed no, but bitrate should still have an effect in the preview?

i'm not an expert here either so i could be wrong

For multiple reasons, the bitrare is irrelevant to the situation, it presents in local recordings and before I even start any kind of output

[flashiling]

4 minutes ago, Mattwhoplaysdrums said:

For multiple reasons, the bitrare is irrelevant to the situation, it presents in local recordings and before I even start any kind of output

are you playing games in borderless window mode?

and are you capturing specific applications or your entire monitor.

[Mattwhoplaysdrums]

7 minutes ago, flashiling said:

are you playing games in borderless window mode?

and are you capturing specific applications or your entire monitor.

It happens regardless of capture methods, regarded of wether I have a game open or not.

[Pixian]

Try changing OBS's thread priority to high, so that it gets more processor resources.

[flashiling]

do you have a video of this by any chance?

[Pixian]

Also it could possibly your display adapter drivers need updating.

[LogicalDrm]

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[Mattwhoplaysdrums]

6 hours ago, Pixian said:

Also it could possibly your display adapter drivers need updating.

All my drivers are up to date

[Mattwhoplaysdrums]

7 hours ago, Pixian said:

Try changing OBS's thread priority to high, so that it gets more processor resources.

Do you not understand that I've worked on this for weeks? You're suggesting things that are on the beginner OBS issue checklist

[Skiiwee29]

1 hour ago, Mattwhoplaysdrums said:

Do you not understand that I've worked on this for weeks? You're suggesting things that are on the beginner OBS issue checklist

If its not listed as a troubleshooting step taken, we can not assume its been done.

 

Have you tried running OBS in administrator mode? There is a windows bug that won't allocate the appropriate resources to OBS if your GPU usage is above ~85% and devalues it. Running OBS in administrator mode resolves this. This sounds like it may be similar to what you're experiencing. 

[Mattwhoplaysdrums]

1 hour ago, Skiiwee29 said:

If its not listed as a troubleshooting step taken, we can not assume its been done.

 

Have you tried running OBS in administrator mode? There is a windows bug that won't allocate the appropriate resources to OBS if your GPU usage is above ~85% and devalues it. Running OBS in administrator mode resolves this. This sounds like it may be similar to what you're experiencing. 

I have been thru every baseline test. That's where I started. I've done every combination of running as admin, process priority, game mode on and off, gpu scheduling on and off, both encoders, lower settings, I've monitored temps and resource usage, and ran latencymon while testing, to see if anything changes when the issue is presenting itself and it doesn't. I've tried every capture method, including using a capture card, doing it 2 pc with NDI and it still shows up. The only time it didn't stutter was when I ran Linux obs on the 1700x system but there's no practical way to get everything from the main pc, because nd I requires obs on the first computer, which will start stuttering and it transfers it over ndi even.