Build From Hell

[Stephen Chou]

Acording to the reviews from linus the H100i and 2 noctua fans should provide a superior solution to an Air cooled system.  Have I been taken in by watching his youtube reviews?

Yeah, the H100i should be sufficient. I have is it, and even when I overclocked my CPU to 4.7, the temperature only maxed out at around 40 degrees. The only problem is why yours is so hot.

[Rombo Deadfish]

@Rombo Deadfish, at idle my vram temps hover around 40C. I haven't really watched how they act under stress and I don't see why I should. If you are so worried, check how airflow over them is. With AIOs they don't get same airflow as with air coolers so if you are exhausting to top with 2 fans, you might want to test having rear fan intaking over vrms.

 

As for popping issue with speakers. Thats either wire issue or just bad built quality of sound chip. I remember having that with old, old mobo. Now I get same effect when I change sound profile of soundcard. So check cable and maybe lower volume from speaker side.

 

On another note, throw AI Suite to trash. Something like HWmonitor or OpenHardwareMonitor is much better for checking temps.

I have a rear exhaust fan and as far as the speakers go I had a Z87-A based system in here of a month and there were no issues with poppiing on power on or off.

[Rombo Deadfish]

Yeah, the H100i should be sufficient. I have is it, and even when I overclocked my CPU to 4.7, the temperature only maxed out at around 40 degrees. The only problem is why yours is so hTh

The room that the system in is usually around 80F.  With the Noctua Air Cooler the z87-a system ran cooler at idle and under load.  The i5 was running at at multiplier of 3.8.  I had nothing on that system to monitor VRM temps so I didn't know what was going on.  But playing the same game the CPU temp maybe hit the low 40Cs, with this system and supposedly a better cooling system it hits 50C with turbo mode enabled.  There are no add on cards in the board just the 780TI.  Maybe putting a side fan in to blow on the VRMs would help with running higher multipliers.  Right now with turbo mode of the CPU of it is behaving better.

[Rombo Deadfish]

Yeah, the H100i should be sufficient. I have is it, and even when I overclocked my CPU to 4.7, the temperature only maxed out at around 40 degrees. The only problem is why yours is so hot.

What did you use for a curve in the fan RPM?  Did you use the stock fans that came with it or replace them with NOCTUA's as Linus recommended?

[Stephen Chou]

What did you use for a curve in the fan RPM?  Did you use the stock fans that came with it or replace them with NOCTUA's as Linus recommended?

Noob question but I'm assuming you mean the liquid cooling fans? If so, I used the stock one. I don't know if this makes a difference, but I have a 770, not a 780Ti.

(I'm not exactly a techie, but I can understand some things.)

[rentaspoon]

I thought with watercooling you get higher temps at idle than air cooling and lower temps under load.

All I can say is make sure your pump is running at full speed all the time and if your overly worried reapply the thermal paste with some decent stuff

I know its not much help but havent seen anyone suggest it.

[Rombo Deadfish]

What did you use for a curve in the fan RPM?  Did you use the stock fans that came with it or replace them with NOCTUA's as Linus recommended?

I replaced the stock H100i fans with the Noctuas as suggested.  For the cpu cooler I have them set as follows:

35C 950RPM

40C 1050 RPM

45C 1150 RPM

50C 1250 RPM

55C 1350 RPM

 

I have a 200mm Fan that came with the case in front running at 800RPM and I replaced the exhaust Fan with a corsair air flow series quiet edition also running around 800RPM

 

What I have noticed is that the 780TI is generating alot of heat inside the case.

[Rombo Deadfish]

Noob question but I'm assuming you mean the liquid cooling fans? If so, I used the stock one. I don't know if this makes a difference, but I have a 770, not a 780Ti.

(I'm not exactly a techie, but I can understand some things.)

The 760 in my olds system didn't seem to get that hot but the OC II 780TI in my new system seems like a furnace.

[Rombo Deadfish]

I thought with watercooling you get higher temps at idle than air cooling and lower temps under load.

All I can say is make sure your pump is running at full speed all the time and if your overly worried reapply the thermal paste with some decent stuff

I know its not much help but havent seen anyone suggest it.

The H100i came with its own paste applied to the bottom of the block so I just went with that

[rentaspoon]

The H100i came with its own paste applied to the bottom of the block so I just went with that

Yep, Im not a fan of pre applied paste, Im just saying if you want to tick another thing off your list of things that could be wrong you could replace the paste and do it yourself.

[Rombo Deadfish]

Yep, Im not a fan of pre applied paste, Im just saying if you want to tick another thing off your list of things that could be wrong you could replace the paste and do it yourself.

I saw a linus youtube video that said Arctic Silver 5 can make a 12C difference in temperature.  In the corsair link software I notice a 6C to 8C difference between the temperature of the H100i and the CPU temperature.

[TDP_Equinox]

so..... can i have your old system? (stupid core 2 duo)

As for the actual question, the speakers popping are simply because of power suddenly being supplied, and dropped. that is nothing to worry about.
the heat... erm, that isnt really that big of an issue. i would say up the RPM a bit, and make sure you have the fans blowing air in the right direction.
For the RAD i would say one fan blowing away and the other blowing towards would be good. 
As for the shut down, make sure your PSU fan is getting fresh air. if you have it pointing to the GPU pulling air from it, it might be getting too hot and shutting down on you.
Or, it could not be getting any air at all.
Hope this helps.

EDIT: Replacing the thermal paste could help aswell.

[leaderroy]

What case are you using? you might not have good enough airflow.
As for thermal paste, IC Diamond gives the best performance and it practically lasts forever.

You might wanna run a test with the case open just to see if temps gets any better.

[Rombo Deadfish]

What case are you using? you might not have good enough airflow.

As for thermal paste, IC Diamond gives the best performance and it practically lasts forever.

You might wanna run a test with the case open just to see if temps gets any better.

I am using a Corsair Graphite 600T Case

[leaderroy]

I am using a Corsair Graphite 600T Case

Okay, good choice of case.

However I didn't notice that massive amount of RAM untill now, that puts a lot of strain on the VRM.

The solution to cooler temperatures is either to take out some of the ram, turn the H-100i fans to blow air into the case or you could simply leave it be...

[Rombo Deadfish]

Okay, good choice of case.

However I didn't notice that massive amount of RAM untill now, that puts a lot of strain on the VRM.

The solution to cooler temperatures is either to take out some of the ram, turn the H-100i fans to blow air into the case or you could simply leave it be...

The chipset is designed for up to 32GB it should be able to handle it without any issues.  The DRAM frequency is only running at 1333MHZ.   The solution for the VRM issue may be just to put 4 fans in the left side cover of the case.   The poping noise going through the speakers when the board is first powered up(Before the BIOS screen comes up) is not something that I am going to live with.  Since it is inside of 30 days I am RMAing the MB back to the orginal retailer.  They told me to take a picture of the CPU socket pins before they could process the RMA request.  This seemed quite odd.  Then when I asked if they would cross ship if I supplied a credit card number they said no.  They also told me that it would take up to 3 weeks before I got a replacement board.  I told them that I want to change from replacement to refund and I ordered a new MB from New Egg earlier today w/ 3 day shipping which means it will be here tomorrow.

[leaderroy]

I have no idea why you would send it back, there don't seem to be anything wrong with it...

[Rombo Deadfish]

I have no idea why you would send it back, there don't seem to be anything wrong with it...

The speakers pop before the BIOS screen comes up when I turn it on.  It is a loud pop, didn't happen on the Z87-A system that I had hear for a month prior,  It also never happened on the supermicro Core 2 Duo based system that I have for 5 years before either.  Nothing should be comming out of the sound port the second that you hit the power on button.

[SaifaFox]

speaker pop is normal. plus most of the time you dont need over 8 to 16gigs of ram. as for heat that happens. a big cpu and gpu cause heat. normal. everything in your build is fine except the stupid high ammount of ram your using(not to offend you) but other than that its all normal. if your uncomfortable with the heat then try a case that holds more stuff and get a bunch more fans. i have a phantom 410 and i can fit 7 fans and 3 of them are 140s i do believe as well as a big radiator if i ever decide to upgrade and water cool. and when something pops in your speaker its probably just when the sound turns on as well as power. if you take a surround sound for example. as soon as you plug it into a tv and power it up it pops the speakers. its normal for that to happen. iv owned speakers that poped for about 10 years now and they still work like i just got them out of the box.

[Rombo Deadfish]

speaker pop is normal. plus most of the time you dont need over 8 to 16gigs of ram. as for heat that happens. a big cpu and gpu cause heat. normal. everything in your build is fine except the stupid high ammount of ram your using(not to offend you) but other than that its all normal. if your uncomfortable with the heat then try a case that holds more stuff and get a bunch more fans. i have a phantom 410 and i can fit 7 fans and 3 of them are 140s i do believe as well as a big radiator if i ever decide to upgrade and water cool. and when something pops in your speaker its probably just when the sound turns on as well as power. if you take a surround sound for example. as soon as you plug it into a tv and power it up it pops the speakers. its normal for that to happen. iv owned speakers that poped for about 10 years now and they still work like i just got them out of the box.

I have had numerous systems.  The speakers did make a noise when powering down but I solved that problem by turning the volume to zero before shutdown.  I had an LGA 775 system with onboard sound for 5 years on the same speaker and never heard anything on power on.  I had a Z87-A based system here for a month prior to the Maximus VI Formula based system and never heard a pop in the speakers when I hit the power on switch on the PC.  It is not normal to hear a pop coming through the speakers before the BIOS screen even loads.  This was confirmed by ASUS tech support.  I have an older core2 quad supermicro MB based system on the other desk.  Using onboard sound and the speakers don't make a sound when I hit the power one button.  The poping noise is not normal.

[SaifaFox]

I have had numerous systems.  The speakers did make a noise when powering down but I solved that problem by turning the volume to zero before shutdown.  I had an LGA 775 system with onboard sound for 5 years on the same speaker and never heard anything on power on.  I had a Z87-A based system here for a month prior to the Maximus VI Formula based system and never heard a pop in the speakers when I hit the power on switch on the PC.  It is not normal to hear a pop coming through the speakers before the BIOS screen even loads.  This was confirmed by ASUS tech support.  I have an older core2 quad supermicro MB based system on the other desk.  Using onboard sound and the speakers don't make a sound when I hit the power one button.  The poping noise is not normal.

ASUS would confirm anything if it ment they could get you attached to products so you keep coming back. i use a 32inch Sony bravia and a Logitech Surround sound. both pop if its loud enough. its not going to damage anything. if that was the case then everyone better send back every surround sound known to man because those speakers pop everytime you plug and unplug the audio jack and every time you turn them on and off. if speaker pop was an issue it would have been resolved by now but there arnt any known issues from it asside from the people who cant handle little noises. like a kid i know who hates the sound of penciles writing(weird ik) lol. but really. look at it this way...now you know your speakers work and are getting power. its just like music playing. when the base goes off the speaker pops out and back in. same thing. if you really think its an issue or cant stand it then id send it back. but im one of those people who dont care as long as it works and wont break. and i take my pc apart once a week to clean it out. idk its your choice. like we said. its not ganna do any harm.

[Rombo Deadfish]

ASUS would confirm anything if it ment they could get you attached to products so you keep coming back. i use a 32inch Sony bravia and a Logitech Surround sound. both pop if its loud enough. its not going to damage anything. if that was the case then everyone better send back every surround sound known to man because those speakers pop everytime you plug and unplug the audio jack and every time you turn them on and off. if speaker pop was an issue it would have been resolved by now but there arnt any known issues from it asside from the people who cant handle little noises. like a kid i know who hates the sound of penciles writing(weird ik) lol. but really. look at it this way...now you know your speakers work and are getting power. its just like music playing. when the base goes off the speaker pops out and back in. same thing. if you really think its an issue or cant stand it then id send it back. but im one of those people who dont care as long as it works and wont break. and i take my pc apart once a week to clean it out. idk its your choice. like we said. its not ganna do any harm.

Okay after getting a second MB from a different vendor and having the same issue, in fact I stuck an SB Card in the PC and the pop was softer but still there.  I agree that the issue is the poor design of the motherboard itself.  As far as the cooling goes I have a big 200MM fan in the front a 120mm exhaust fan in the rear and I bought 4 silent Air Flow edition corsair 120mm fans for the side panel to blow on the MB and the Video Card.   All fans are set for a little below 700RPM except for the exhaust fan which is running closer to 850RPM.  The system has a mild overclock of 3.9GHZ set by the autotune for the fan expert 2 section.  The lesson from this is to go back to supermicro when I upgrade my work PC.  I had been using SM MBs since the late 90's and never got a speaker pop.   The h100i liquid cooler is way over rated. I would have been better off with the noctua 120mm AIR Cooling solution for the CPU.