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So I was hearing about possible air bubbles causing issues for the pump. How's my placement, okay? My pump seems to be quiet, even when the settings for it is set to performance. If there was air bubbles making it's way through the loop, to the pump, would I hear it? I was hearing it's best to have the rad upside down, where the tubes from the bottom up to the pump. With my 3090, it's impossible to have that setup. I was hoping the pump being lower than my rad, it would help reduce the chances of air bubbles.

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11 minutes ago, Apollyon2020 said:

So I was hearing about possible air bubbles causing issues for the pump. How's my placement, okay? My pump seems to be quiet, even when the settings for it is set to performance. If there was air bubbles making it's way through the loop, to the pump, would I hear it? I was hearing it's best to have the rad upside down, where the tubes from the bottom up to the pump. With my 3090, it's impossible to have that setup. I was hoping the pump being lower than my rad, it would help reduce the chances of air bubbles.

 

Ideally, yes, Tubes that feed the pump would be on the bottom, but this setup is also fine. Your pump is lower then the top of the radiator, so all bubbles will work their way to the top of the rad. That is not "ideal", ideal would be tubes at the bottom with air bubbles floating to the top. BUT, that said, this is fine, nothing to worry about at all.

 

What case is it? Can you put the radiator across the top as exhaust? That would be the ideal situation.

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2 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

Ideally, yes, Tubes that feed the pump would be on the bottom, but this setup is also fine. Your pump is lower then the top of the radiator, so all bubbles will work their way to the top of the rad. That is not "ideal", ideal would be tubes at the bottom with air bubbles floating to the top. BUT, that said, this is fine, nothing to worry about at all.

 

What case is it? Can you put the radiator across the top as exhaust? That would be the ideal situation.

Yeah I'm able to mount it on the top if I really need to. Where the rad is located, there is a opening on my side panel to allow airflow to escape. Problem is, if I change the positioning, the 2 fans on the top (exhaust) can I mount them to the side where the rad is as (exhaust) as well?

 

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2 minutes ago, Apollyon2020 said:

Yeah I'm able to mount it on the top if I really need to. Where the rad is located, there is a opening on my side panel to allow airflow to escape. Problem is, if I change the positioning, the 2 fans on the top (exhaust) can I mount them to the side where the rad is as (exhaust) as well?

 

Id run the radiator as a top exhaust, and put the top fans on the bottom as intake to give the GPU fresh air from the bottom. Just because you have fan openings doesn't mean you HAVE TO fill them ;)

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5 minutes ago, LIGISTX said:

Id run the radiator as a top exhaust, and put the top fans on the bottom as intake to give the GPU fresh air from the bottom. Just because you have fan openings doesn't mean you HAVE TO fill them ;)

That's the thing, I have fans on the bottom lolll. Here's my fan setup: 3 fans bottom (Intake), 1 fan back (Exhaust), 2 fans top (Exhaust), 3 fans front (Intake). Then rad on the side :P

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1 minute ago, Apollyon2020 said:

That's the thing, I have fans on the bottom lolll. Here's my fan setup: 3 fans bottom (Intake), 1 fan back (Exhaust), 2 fans top (Exhaust), 3 fans front (Intake). Then rad on the side :P

Id move the rad to the top as exhaust. The side vents, honestly may be better off closing them back up. You want a nice columns of air moving from cold to hot (bottom to top). If you have front and side fans as intake, your likely just creating weird turbulence which may be less good. You def wouldn't want the side ones as exhaust as they will just suck the nice fresh air from the front right out.

 

Or.... experiment. Def move the rad to the top, then see what's better for GPU And CPU with fans on the side or not. Check the temp in your room as you test, every degree C the temp goes up in the room, the GPU and CPU temps will go up the same. So if you do a test with ambient air of 20c and your CPU is 70c, then you test again the next day and ambient is 24 and CPU is 74, its effectively the same cooling capacity. Run CPU stress tests and GPU tests and combined tests, then you will have proven to yourself which is the best for your exact setup :).

 

In all honesty, all of these tests will likely result within a degree or 2 of eachother anyways, but still better to actually do science then pretend to have ;)

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3 minutes ago, Apollyon2020 said:

Just saw on FB some images of other people's rad setups... Look at this guys. I'm sure mine is fine then as you said lol :P

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It is fine. Is it optimal? No. Does that really matter? Thats up to you.

 

It won't hurt anything how it is. Is it offering the absolute best cooling? Possibly also no. Does it look good, if you like the look then yes and thats all that matters. Its a balance between looks and function. Only you can decide that for your own rig :)

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I'll have to try it out then. Thursday I'll be getting 2 new 3000rpm fans to replace my 2 2000 rpm fans. Long story short... my Commander pro failed on port #2 for some odd reason. The fan connected to port 2 just stopped, but the fan works though. Now I'm using the cases fan hub, but my 2 2000rpms isn't in sync with my 3000rpm fans lol. I guess by Thursday, I'll do the change. Push pull work on rads at all? I'm thinking if I should bother or not, or leave it as is and change the positioning.

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