Urgent Help Needed! First PC Build

[MTKT]

Budget (including currency): entry level

Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

GeForce GTX 1650 Super graphics cardsold out everywhere!

Any recommended alternatives? 

 

Entry level budget unfortunately. 

Think I'm getting i3 9100f, Gigabyte Z390 D ATX LGA1151 Motherboard, Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x 8GB DDR4 3600, 1TB HD, 256GB SSD

Ordering everything today

 

Can anyone help?

[Downkey]

9 minutes ago, MTKT said:

Budget (including currency): entry level

Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

 

GeForce GTX 1650 Super graphics cardsold out everywhere!

Any recommended alternatives? 

 

Entry level budget unfortunately. 

Think I'm getting i3 9100f, Gigabyte Z390 D ATX LGA1151 Motherboard, Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x 8GB DDR4 3600, 1TB HD, 256GB SSD

Ordering everything today

 

Can anyone help?

Don't do it. Wait for the 1650 super to be in stock. If you HAD to order today, this RX 570 could work, it is quite expensive however. 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (12nm) 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor	£114.99 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard	ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	£70.91 @ More Computers
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	£63.92 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	Asus Radeon RX 570 8 GB STRIX GAMING OC Video Card	£169.99 @ CCL Computers
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£419.81
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-16 13:23 GMT+0000

 

The 1 TB HDD and 256 GB SSD is still fine

 

[Helpful Tech Witch]

I can tighten the price down a bit if you want

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Nb4fnL

amd alternitave:

ocing, xmp, and much better upgrade path

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	£134.97 @ CCL Computers
Motherboard	Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	£60.67 @ AWD-IT
Memory	PNY Anarchy-X 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	£56.16 @ CCL Computers
Storage	PNY CS900 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	£39.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	£36.78 @ Aria PC
Video Card	Palit GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB StormX OC Video Card	£240.22 @ Amazon UK
Case	KOLINK INSPIRE K2 RGB MicroATX Mini Tower Case	£27.99 @ Currys PC World
Power Supply	SeaSonic S12III 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	£45.22 @ Amazon UK
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£642.00
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-16 13:27 GMT+0000

 

 

 

 

[MTKT]

Thanks both.

 

I've just found this

 

https://www.cclonline.com/product/302046/GTX-1650-SUPER-AERO-ITX-OC/Graphics-Cards/MSI-GeForce-GTX-1650-SUPER-AERO-ITX-OC-4GB-Overclocked-Graphics-Card/VGA5719/

 

is it a 'normal' 1650 super?

mightve just found some luck!

[boggy77]

12 minutes ago, MTKT said:

i3 9100f, Gigabyte Z390

no need for a Z motherboard with a i3.

a used rx 570/580 should do. see if CEX have any in stock

[Downkey]

2 minutes ago, MTKT said:

Thanks both.

 

I've just found this

 

https://www.cclonline.com/product/302046/GTX-1650-SUPER-AERO-ITX-OC/Graphics-Cards/MSI-GeForce-GTX-1650-SUPER-AERO-ITX-OC-4GB-Overclocked-Graphics-Card/VGA5719/

 

is it a 'normal' 1650 super?

mightve just found some luck!

Thats just a "mini" version of the 1650 super. It will have the exact same performance as all other 1650 supers.

[boggy77]

https://uk.webuy.com/product-detail/?id=sgraamdradrx5704gb&categoryName=graphics-cards-pci-e&superCatName=computing&title=amd-radeon-rx-570-4gb

https://uk.webuy.com/product-detail/?id=sgranvi980gtx4gba&categoryName=graphics-cards-pci-e&superCatName=computing&title=nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-4gb-gddr5

[Downkey]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (12nm) 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor	£114.99 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard	ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	£70.91 @ More Computers
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	£63.92 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Team MS30 256 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	£36.22 @ More Computers
Storage	Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	£36.78 @ Aria PC
Video Card	MSI GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB AERO ITX OC Video Card	£160.00
Case	Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case	£45.46 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	£69.97 @ CCL Computers
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£598.25
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-16 13:33 GMT+0000

 

[MTKT]

Thanks for the help.

 

 

@Downkey @HelpfulTechWizard if I get the components you've listed, do i need anything else?

 

presumably an operating system (planning Windows 10 Home 64 bit),

monitor, keyboard, mouse

speakers / headphones

 

- do i need to get any parts so that speakers/ headphones / wifi work?

 

I'm actually trying to get the components for my son to build, so sorry for ignorance on all this.

[Downkey]

8 minutes ago, MTKT said:

Thanks for the help.

 

 

@Downkey @HelpfulTechWizard if I get the components you've listed, do i need anything else?

 

presumably an operating system (planning Windows 10 Home 64 bit),

monitor, keyboard, mouse

speakers / headphones

 

- do i need to get any parts so that speakers/ headphones / wifi work?

 

I'm actually trying to get the components for my son to build, so sorry for ignorance on all this.

That all depends
Does your son have a keyboard, mouse, and headphones?
Does he use wifi?
Also don't buy a Windows 10 key at MSRP. Huge waste of money, especially for your budget

[MTKT]

Yes, keyboard, mouse, headphones should be sorted.

 

We will need to use some sort of internet & likely computer will be upstairs, WIFI box downstairs.

 

What do you mean 'at MSRP'?  I thought it needed some kind of operating system? (I might use it for work, as well as son's gaming, but have a Microsoft 365 through work we can use)

[wall03]

20 minutes ago, MTKT said:

Yes, keyboard, mouse, headphones should be sorted.

 

We will need to use some sort of internet & likely computer will be upstairs, WIFI box downstairs.

 

What do you mean 'at MSRP'?  I thought it needed some kind of operating system? (I might use it for work, as well as son's gaming, but have a Microsoft 365 through work we can use)

you can buy Windows on ebay for like $5

[MTKT]

Ah - didn't realise that.  Is it an immediate download @wall03 and does it work just as well?  If so, I might leave that up to my son to sort & save myself £100!!!

 
 

[wall03]

8 minutes ago, MTKT said:

Ah - didn't realise that.  Is it an immediate download @wall03 and does it work just as well?  If so, I might leave that up to my son to sort & save myself £100!!!

 
 

you can download it for free at Microsoft's website, ebay provides an activation code needed to use the computer to it's full potential

[MTKT]

So how much worse will a computer with 

Asus Prime H310-plus R2.0 & GTX 1650 (not super) & only 256GB SSD not 500GB (+1TB HDD)

be compared to

Gigabyte Z390D & 1650 Super & 500GB SSD (+1TB HDD)?

 

I know it's entry level, but they are both way out of my original budget, so i do want there to be some future proofing involved.  can't afford to upgrade within the next year or two!

[MTKT]

Ok - that 1650 super no longer there.

What is the 'next best thing' & how much worse is it?  

I'd rather have all the parts so that son can start building on christmas day, but if it is a huge jump down for not much less money, then I might consider leaving the graphics card & putting an 'i owe you' in ....?

[MTKT]

Also, do i need to get any extras like wires or screws to build it all? or will each part come with those?